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Grip Safety deactivation?

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#1 ·
I have just got done doing some work to an old Colt commander, one was adding and blending in a Wilson Combat concealment grip safety. This got me to thinking, why not just remove the arm that blocks that trigger from moving backwards? The GS would still be there and move, however it would not impede the trigger and of course would not work.

Anyone already doing this? And pic because who doesn't love a pic here and there.

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Why ? Is this a competition gun ? Seeing a grip safety in place would give a false sense of security . There is a device that replaces grip safety and mainspring housing with one solid unit . You could pin it and not destroy an expensive grip safety . IMHO if one doesn't want a grip safety a different gun may be the solution .
 
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That's like cutting off one nut because you don't "need" two . . . . . .

Sheesh . . . .




Ok I’ll ask, why? What’s wrong with the original design & having a grip safety? I’ve never had an issue or problem with one of mine, I don’t remember even hearing about someone having a problem with one so I have to ask why?


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Ok I’ll ask, why? What’s wrong with the original design & having a grip safety? I’ve never had an issue or problem with one of mine, I don’t remember even hearing about someone having a problem with one so I have to ask why?


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#5 ·
It wasn't uncommon to pin grip safeties back in the day so they are locked in the engaged position, or to use something to tie them down. I'd rather do that than just have it flopping around for no reason. Of course, if I was going to pin one I wouldn't use one with a memory bump.
 
#9 ·
I don’t know if a reason why, that’s why I asked the question. I don’t get why it is “dumb” to modify it not to work, but the Answer is acceptable. Guys I’m not trying to defend something that I have done, it just seemed simple to do.
 
#13 ·
In all seriousness (if that's actually a word) I would never personally alter a safety on a firearm. Seems like it would open you up for liability in the event something went wrong. I like the extra layer of safety for even a little thing like clearing the weapon to avoid any chance of a ND.
 
#16 ·
It is called a GRIP SAFETY because that means you need to grip the gun to allow it to fire.
In the condition 1 carry mode I wouldn’t have a gun without a good functioning grip safety.
Just think about it. JMB wasn’t stupid.
 
#18 ·
It is called a GRIP SAFETY because that means you need to grip the gun to allow it to fire.

No $hit, thanks for that...


In the condition 1 carry mode I wouldn’t have a gun without a good functioning grip safety.
Just think about it. JMB wasn’t stupid.

Well he must have become stupid since the Hi Power didnt have a grip safety. Come to think of it neither did the early models that became the 1911. It was added later tuff guy
 
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Well you had better look a little bit closer at that Pocket 32 then.
JMB designed it with a grip safety Just in case you didn’t see it. It’s there. Look closer now.
And which of those models is still the most copied after 107 years.
 
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If I were going to do it , which I'm not , I'd pin it because it's easily reversible and cheap . Novack's Answer needs fitting and finishing by a decent 'smith . When done though they look good . I've seen people hold the GS in with a rubber band . P.S. Didn't JMB put the GS in at the demand of the Army ? Did Star make 1911 semi clones without grip safeties ?
 
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P.S. Didn't JMB put the GS in at the demand of the Army ? Did Star make 1911 semi clones without grip safeties ?
I believe you are correct on both MG . . . . .

The Argentinian Ballester-Molina clones are missing the grip safety as well.
 
#28 ·
The 1911's grip safety was added by request. Like any good businessman would, JMB designed a lot of his firearms to meet the criteria set forth by the customer. I'm not sure what the big deal is about a 1911 with a grip safety that has been removed or permanently disengaged, the BHP doesn't have a grip safety and who knows how many thousands of them are carried cocked and locked every day. When you go hunting don't you have a round in the chamber and the safety on? What's the difference?

Is the grip safety on a 1911 reassuring? Sure it is, I like having it there. But, I've still carried BHPs, an FNP45T, and all kinds of shotguns and rifles in 'condition one' and none of them had grip safeties and I never had an issue or ND.
 
#29 ·
I would never disable a factory safety.

As far as the grip safety goes, I spend the
extra time to fit the arm so the slightest
movement lets the trigger move rearward
but still blocks it completely when not pressed.

You can look through the thumb safety hole
and from the top to see the engagement.
 
#31 · (Edited)
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From my understanding and I could be wrong, the grip safety was added at the request of the Army for the mounted calvary so they wouldn't accidentally shoot their horse in the head while reloading. From a retired Master Sargeant SF Green Beret.
I did not vet this however.
I have a pistol with the "answer ", instead of a grip safety and I love it, albeit it's not for everyone.
 
#32 ·
View attachment 106837 From my understanding and I could be wrong, the grip safety was added at the request of the Army for the mounted calvary so they wouldn't accidentally shoot their horse in the head while reloading. From a retired Master Sargeant SF Green Beret.
I did not vet this however.
I have a pistol with the "answer ", instead of a grip safety and I love it, albeit it's not for everyone.
If I was building a comp. gun that looks like the right way to go .
 
#33 ·
I have just got done doing some work to an old Colt commander, one was adding and blending in a Wilson Combat concealment grip safety. This got me to thinking, why not just remove the arm that blocks that trigger from moving backwards? The GS would still be there and move, however it would not impede the trigger and of course would not work.

Anyone already doing this? And pic because who doesn't love a pic here and there.

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NO! That arm blocks the trigger from going to far back as well, removal will result in doubling or full Auto. Grip safety can be pinned.


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