1945 COLT M1911A1 NEVER ISSUED

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  1. Shocker2000

    Shocker2000 Well-Known Member

    Apr 6, 2016
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  2. El Perdido

    El Perdido Fictional Western Sage

    Oct 3, 2011
    I can't see the pics and in order to see them, have to join that forum
     

  3. Shocker2000

    Shocker2000 Well-Known Member

    Apr 6, 2016
  4. Shocker2000

    Shocker2000 Well-Known Member

    Apr 6, 2016
    Sorry about that. Posted images. I checked with the store. The gun is on consignment.
     
  5. Cop_Out

    Cop_Out Pearl Pimp Supporting Addict

    Feb 3, 2017
  6. 7.62Kolectr

    7.62Kolectr On guard

    Jun 6, 2018
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  7. tac45

    tac45 What me worry ? Supporting Addict

    Mar 4, 2012
    I have to agree , rollmarks very light as in a poorly refinished pistol.
    This is a late 1945 end of WW11 issue

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  8. Shocker2000

    Shocker2000 Well-Known Member

    Apr 6, 2016
    Good sleuthing...
     
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  9. Lakeman45

    Lakeman45 Active Member

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    May 15, 2017
    Box is fake. $6.00 box with fake stamp Colt never used.
     
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  10. Shocker2000

    Shocker2000 Well-Known Member

    Apr 6, 2016
    Do you have any online references to such a box with a fake stamp? Any pictures of legit boxes would be nice to see. Thanks

    I'm sure the seller doesn't know. I kind of feel sorry for people that get duped.

    BTW - the shop let the seller know. They compared it to a 1949 commercial and agree the pistol has been refinished. Some nicks on the frame under the parkerizing, some pitting that shouldn't be there. They notified the seller.
     
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  11. M1911info

    M1911info Well-Known Member

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    Jul 2, 2012
    None of the manufacturers ever used a box that had a place for the serial number on the lid. Original Colt boxes in WWII were not stamped with anything, and had nothing printed on them. The serial number was hand-written on the bottom.

    Remington Rand and Ithaca boxes did not have serial numbers on them at all.
     
  12. Lakeman45

    Lakeman45 Active Member

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    May 15, 2017
    Just curious, but what did comparing a military .45 with a commercial .45 reveal?
     
  13. Yoemen66

    Yoemen66 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2017
    The post has been updated that they realize its been reparkerized and they will be discussing this with the consigner....that should be fun. No mention of the box.

    Lakeman? I am not getting your question. The original gun posted was supposed to be a never issued military pistol and has the requisite markings, the gun on post 36 in the link is also a military pistol?
     
  14. Shocker2000

    Shocker2000 Well-Known Member

    Apr 6, 2016
    It was a short message.

    "We also have a 1949 commercial colt in the case, after comparing the two pistols we came to the same conclusion. Roll Mark's faint, and possible reparked rust on slide lock."
     
  15. 7.62Kolectr

    7.62Kolectr On guard

    Jun 6, 2018
    ALWAYS buy the gun and not the story.
    If it’s a nice original 1911 fine but all the unissued original box stuff is just supposition.
    The fact the top line of roll mark is fainter than the bottom one shows it was buffed heavier there than on the flat.
     
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  16. Yoemen66

    Yoemen66 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2017
    I am confused...I wasn't arguing about the originality of the gun. I thought lakeman was referring to your post. I missed the reference to comparing it to a commercial gun. Yes its very obvious that the gun was buffed hard based off the faint roll marks.
     
  17. Lakeman45

    Lakeman45 Active Member

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    Most of the 1946 Colts were made from left over military contract parts, and some had the sandblasting and parkerizing buffed off before bluing. They show the effects of being buffed, but are original 1946 Colts.
     
  18. 7.62Kolectr

    7.62Kolectr On guard

    Jun 6, 2018
    Yes. But the gun in question here is still parked. So it looks to me like it was buffed hard and reparked.
     
  19. Lakeman45

    Lakeman45 Active Member

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    May 15, 2017
    That has nothing to do with the question as to what looking at a commercial gun has to do with a military gun.

    Military rebuild facilities did not buff the guns to refinish them. They were sandblasted to remove any rust and old finish.
     
  20. Shocker2000

    Shocker2000 Well-Known Member

    Apr 6, 2016
    FYI - I had accidentally put 1946 commercial in my post, but the gun shop actually had a 1949 commercial for comparison.
     

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