[JLL2013]

That’s the joke. Kyle lied left and right in that book; no shocking revelations about that.

It's in his book.

 

[eboggs]

It's getting to the point where I'm not going to post anymore. There's always someone who contradicts my posts

Ohhhh lighten up, it’s the internet. Sheesh.

That’s the joke. Kyle lied left and right in that book; no shocking revelations about that.

I’ve heard the same from reliable people. Owell.

 

[Tenalpha10FL]

Not 90s but War on Terror era. Super well built SF CQB Railed.

 

[Krimbo]

Never. 1911's don't like sand, period.

This isn’t true.
Some internet fudd said this, now people who don’t get out and actually train parrot this statement. 🙄

 

[rch27834]

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[Benhou]

Nice collections.

 

[Squidsix]

That is a SOB "condom" holster. They are excellent.

Sheriff of Baghdad - Leather Holsters - Condom Holster - IWB

The Condom Holster is made from 100% genuine hand made leather. It features no Sharp edges, a spring steel clip and anti slip tab, front sight channels...

sobtactical.com

 

[gator22b]

Never. 1911's don't like sand, period.

I saw a Singer Sewing Company stamped 1911 on the hip of a dude from an ODA while passing through Speicher in 2008. They were definitely used there. Plenty of dudes at that point I knew would happily trade the Beretta for one and didn't mind the extra maintenance.

 

[gator22b]

That is a SOB "condom" holster. They are excellent.

Sheriff of Baghdad - Leather Holsters - Condom Holster - IWB

The Condom Holster is made from 100% genuine hand made leather. It features no Sharp edges, a spring steel clip and anti slip tab, front sight channels...

sobtactical.com

I've seen these floating around and have always been curious...How is reholstering it? And how comfy is it AIWB?

 

[gator22b]

A pair of L.A.V. Colts…I believe they qualify as “Delta Guns”.
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You ever look to offload one brother please let me know immediately so I can start looking to pawn my wife or remortgage the house!

 

[JLL2013]

Is that a service pistol or a well marketed pistol?

Not 90s but War on Terror era. Super well built SF CQB Railed. View attachment 1298429

 

[gator22b]

Is that a service pistol or a well marketed pistol?

Def looks like the wilson gun built as inspired by Ken hackathorn after seeing several two tone builds at a unit training course as per the vickers books I believe.

 

[WaffenJager]

Is there a reason you didn’t go with the forward/protected position for the rear sight?

As stated, the build used all pre-‘93 parts. Which took roughly a year to procure. The ONLY early 90s Caspian slide that came up for sale within that time was a slide with the Bo-Mar cut to the rear/original Bo-Mar installed (not Kensight).

 

[Tenalpha10FL]

Def looks like the wilson gun built as inspired by Ken hackathorn after seeing several two tone builds at a unit training course as per the vickers books I believe.

Wilson Combat “Cave Gun” Delta approached Wilson for a small run of railed guns built to their specs for use in Afghanistan. This is probably an overrun sold on the civilian market.

 

[JLL2013]

Do you have a link to the article? I remember reading that somewhere years ago also. Don’t remember if it specifically stated what unit it was.
Strikes me as odd that a unit where everyone has two 1911s and no change in size would ask Wilson to build guns.

Wilson Combat “Cave Gun” Delta approached Wilson for a small run of railed guns built to their specs for use in Afghanistan. This is probably an overrun sold on the civilian market.

 

[Tenalpha10FL]

Do you have a link to the article? I remember reading that somewhere years ago also. Don’t remember if it specifically stated what unit it was.
Strikes me as odd that a unit where everyone has two 1911s and no change in size would ask Wilson to build guns.

Google cave gun. There is some info from a Wilson Rep about the specs. They have “SF” serial numbers.

 

[JLL2013]

Thanks, just did some reading.
I don’t think they were ever “delta guns” for a variety of reasons but it certainly got the paint scheme from some pistols in service.

Google cave gun. There is some info from a Wilson Rep about the specs. They have “SF” serial numbers.

 

[Rob96]

If I remember correctly in Eric Haney's book, Inside Delta Force, he makes mention of Wilson built guns for the operators.

 

[JLL2013]

There are more guns, knives, optics, and boots "made for special forces" than anyone can count.
"Made for Navy SEALs" and "accepted," "issued," or "selected" are very different things. For example, Rifle A was "made for special forces." While factual, the reality is it was made for a trial, failed the trial/wasn't selected, and now the company has to recoup that expense and the marketing team knows how to cleverly word the add to make you assume something that isn't true.

The Wilson guns...let's lay out some facts.

1) Larry Vickers is a huge Wilson Combat marketing employee. He loves Wilson. Wilson loves Larry.
2) Larry Vickers has never been shy about associating weapons to particular organizations.
3) The "cave gun" is not in any of the Vickers 1911 books. Not in a single edition. Do we really think the LAV would miss a chance to put those two together? He does note that Wilson got the black on green color scheme from Delta pistols. But that is far from "Wilson Combat proudly provided these pistols to the Delta Force."
4) The numbers people cite are 50 guns or only 150 over about 6 years. The same source frankly states "They were tested by SF personnel but never purchased by the government." If you've read this far that should sound familiar...
5) SF isn't Delta. Check Wikipedia for that one. But wouldn't it be cool if Wilson could give the old wink and say "oh what SF group? ...delta" because lord knows there no other SF on the planet.
6) Again, you have a place with plenty of 1911s, who gained 0 people on 9/11...let's not assume that rushing to buy new guns was the first step.
7) What is curious though is that in the same era (early GWOT) that vaunted place did buy guns, made on Caspian frames, from Springfield Armory...not Wilson Combat. Those pistols are very well documented. Let's go back to the opening paragraph again...

Take my break down for what it's worth.

 

[Tenalpha10FL]

There are more guns, knives, optics, and boots "made for special forces" than anyone can count.
"Made for Navy SEALs" and "accepted," "issued," or "selected" are very different things. For example, Rifle A was "made for special forces." While factual, the reality is it was made for a trial, failed the trial/wasn't selected, and now the company has to recoup that expense and the marketing team knows how to cleverly word the add to make you assume something that isn't true.

The Wilson guns...let's lay out some facts.

1) Larry Vickers is a huge Wilson Combat marketing employee. He loves Wilson. Wilson loves Larry.
2) Larry Vickers has never been shy about associating weapons to particular organizations.
3) The "cave gun" is not in any of the Vickers 1911 books. Not in a single edition. Do we really think the LAV would miss a chance to put those two together? He does note that Wilson got the black on green color scheme from Delta pistols. But that is far from "Wilson Combat proudly provided these pistols to the Delta Force."
4) The numbers people cite are 50 guns or only 150 over about 6 years. The same source frankly states "They were tested by SF personnel but never purchased by the government." If you've read this far that should sound familiar...
5) SF isn't Delta. Check Wikipedia for that one. But wouldn't it be cool if Wilson could give the old wink and say "oh what SF group? ...delta" because lord knows there no other SF on the planet.
6) Again, you have a place with plenty of 1911s, who gained 0 people on 9/11...let's not assume that rushing to buy new guns was the first step.
7) What is curious though is that in the same era (early GWOT) that vaunted place did buy guns, made on Caspian frames, from Springfield Armory...not Wilson Combat. Those pistols are very well documented. Let's go back to the opening paragraph again...

Take my break down for what it's worth.

If memory serves me right, I believe that LAV was working at this period with Wilson’s competitor-Nighthawk Custom.