It’s hard to assess recoil impulses as they affect us all differently. I have a 4.15” P and find it shoots soft enough. I have one with a c2 grip and tool less guide rod, and one with stock grip and recoil master. They shoot about the same to me and I don’t feel a difference between the two. I also have an XC and obviously that shoots much softer. But coming from polymer guns, I suspect you’ll enjoy shooting it a lot
2019 Staccato P Questions
I’m new to Staccato’s and I have typically always run Glock and M&P’s.
Most of my polymer pistols are modified but not ported. Most mods include Carver tungsten guiderods, slightly heavier spring, and JG or Apex triggers.
I recently purchased a like new 2019 Staccato P 4.15 barrel gun.
What can I expect in terms of shooting and recoil impulse. I hear they are soft shooting but are that much softer than modified polymer guns?
Hoping to shoot it soon and decide whether to keep it or get a newer 2020 model and port it or go XC.
Sorry for the longer first post. I’m new here but can be found mostly on SnipersHide Forums or M4Carbine under the same screen name. Let me know any recommendations for this pistol and what to expect
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Most of my polymer pistols are modified but not ported. Most mods include Carver tungsten guiderods, slightly heavier spring, and JG or Apex triggers.
I recently purchased a like new 2019 Staccato P 4.15 barrel gun.
What can I expect in terms of shooting and recoil impulse. I hear they are soft shooting but are that much softer than modified polymer guns?
Hoping to shoot it soon and decide whether to keep it or get a newer 2020 model and port it or go XC.
Sorry for the longer first post. I’m new here but can be found mostly on SnipersHide Forums or M4Carbine under the same screen name. Let me know any recommendations for this pistol and what to expect
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Hey, the 4.15 is one of the best sti gats, period. I’ve shot some of my tightest groups with my 4.15. Coming from a dude that has a variety of nice 2011s, the 4.15 is one of my favorites. It’s amazingly soft shooting for the size. But the accuracy is next level. It’s a keeper. Keep it and shoot it
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@Pusher591 You've got yourself a great pistol there!! I think you're asking a great question and thought I'd share my opinion and experience.
FWIW - I've shot plenty of comped plastic pistols, and still have a decked-out, compensated M&P. All my Staccatos shoot better (and the Wilson too but I can't see the irons any longer). I started with the XC, then the C2, then the '19 P, and I put the ODS grip module on it to make it more C2-like. They are all very different guns, but the '19 P is by far my favorite when I compete in my local matches. The additional weight makes it more controllable than the C2, IMO. That's to say it returns to zero faster for me on follow-up shots, and the dot doesn't dance around as much, making me more confident. The trade-off is that the lighter weight of the C2 is more comfortable to carry, IMHO. Your mileage may vary.
The XC is a whole different animal. Not only is it heavy but it's nose heavy in particular compared to the others. It shoots like a laser and is by far the "softest shooting" of my 2011s. I'm a little slower on the draw with the XC but it hauls a$$ in continuous strings of fire, think bill-drills, even though it feels like it's cycling slower (that 8# recoil spring). The compensator is just amazing! Worlds better than those screw-on comps with tiny-little ports that folks run on plastic pistols. The dot pretty much just stays on the target and you run the trigger. The toughest thing to do is to not muscle the XC just let it do its thing. If I shoot it more in matches it would probably be quicker than my P. The XC is fun to shoot, but it's really a range toy and part-time "race gun" for me. I know there are guys out there that say they carry an XC, but there's no way I'm doing that. It's too big for starters and has a 2# trigger. I tuned mine up to 3.5# to be consistent with the C2 and P.
On porting your '19 P: I'm considering the same option and am on the hunt for another one to send off to Vulcan for porting. I don't want to mess with the one I've got.
I'm sure it'll make a difference, the question is how much.
My advice - Do not sell the '19P to buy a new model P. But, if you do decide to sell, I'll take it!
Borrow/Beg/Rent an XC before you put down $4200 on one. Make sure it's going to be worth it to you.
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FWIW - I've shot plenty of comped plastic pistols, and still have a decked-out, compensated M&P. All my Staccatos shoot better (and the Wilson too but I can't see the irons any longer). I started with the XC, then the C2, then the '19 P, and I put the ODS grip module on it to make it more C2-like. They are all very different guns, but the '19 P is by far my favorite when I compete in my local matches. The additional weight makes it more controllable than the C2, IMO. That's to say it returns to zero faster for me on follow-up shots, and the dot doesn't dance around as much, making me more confident. The trade-off is that the lighter weight of the C2 is more comfortable to carry, IMHO. Your mileage may vary.
The XC is a whole different animal. Not only is it heavy but it's nose heavy in particular compared to the others. It shoots like a laser and is by far the "softest shooting" of my 2011s. I'm a little slower on the draw with the XC but it hauls a$$ in continuous strings of fire, think bill-drills, even though it feels like it's cycling slower (that 8# recoil spring). The compensator is just amazing! Worlds better than those screw-on comps with tiny-little ports that folks run on plastic pistols. The dot pretty much just stays on the target and you run the trigger. The toughest thing to do is to not muscle the XC just let it do its thing. If I shoot it more in matches it would probably be quicker than my P. The XC is fun to shoot, but it's really a range toy and part-time "race gun" for me. I know there are guys out there that say they carry an XC, but there's no way I'm doing that. It's too big for starters and has a 2# trigger. I tuned mine up to 3.5# to be consistent with the C2 and P.
On porting your '19 P: I'm considering the same option and am on the hunt for another one to send off to Vulcan for porting. I don't want to mess with the one I've got.
I'm sure it'll make a difference, the question is how much.
My advice - Do not sell the '19P to buy a new model P. But, if you do decide to sell, I'll take it!
Borrow/Beg/Rent an XC before you put down $4200 on one. Make sure it's going to be worth it to you.
Great pick up and I will echo others here. Do not sell that thing for a new 4.4 P.
It definitely is personal preference but I like the faster cycling shorter slide on the 4.15 vs. the 4.4. Hence why I liked my c2 more than my 4.4 P. I recently sold my 4.4p and picked up a 2019 p and also put an ODS grip module on it. It’s by far my favorite handgun I own.
The XC is also amazing but it’s heavy AF and rather slow on the draw and handling compares to the others, but once you get going; it’s fast AF
with that said, I prefer my more nimble c2 and 19p
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It definitely is personal preference but I like the faster cycling shorter slide on the 4.15 vs. the 4.4. Hence why I liked my c2 more than my 4.4 P. I recently sold my 4.4p and picked up a 2019 p and also put an ODS grip module on it. It’s by far my favorite handgun I own.
The XC is also amazing but it’s heavy AF and rather slow on the draw and handling compares to the others, but once you get going; it’s fast AF
with that said, I prefer my more nimble c2 and 19p
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you will also need to get a shorter front sight. The one that comes on the 19p DUO is too tall. You’ll need a front sight with a height of .285.
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