230 GR LRN vs. 200 GR LSWC

Discussion in 'Caliber Talk: Ammunition, Reloading, and Shooting ' started by duketbrd88, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. duketbrd88

    duketbrd88 Well-Known Member

    Sep 1, 2011
    My load for the last 4,000 rds is 230gr lrn over 5.0 gr of bullseye and it works great, no leading. I was wondering, is there any advantage to switching to a 200 gr lswc over say 4-4.5 gr of bullseye? Is the 200gr lswc going to be any more accurate or is it just for punching clean holes in paper? I am no bullseye shooter, just out plinking and having fun. In case it matters my 1911 is a Dan Wesson 5" Valor and have never had any issues at all with this gun.

    Thanks,
    Mike
     
  2. dilespla

    dilespla Never made it to step 12 Supporting Addict

    Oct 12, 2011
    I don't know if this is comparing apples to apples, but I switched from 230gr. FMJ to 200gr. LSWC and did see a noticeable increase in accuracy. I only changed my powder charge to keep my velocity in the same ball park.
     

  3. duketbrd88

    duketbrd88 Well-Known Member

    Sep 1, 2011
    Thanks, In your case, I could see were you would notice a difference. I guess I will just have to pick up a few and see for myself. I don't think there will be a difference, same lead, same manufacture and same size at .452. The only thing I can think of is lighter loads and cleaner holes in paper and a little cheaper.

    Mike
     
  4. Steve B

    Steve B Well-Known Member

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    Nov 29, 2011
    You should notice an accuracy improvement shooting SWC's. Ball ammo is comparable to a flying watermelon.
     
  5. duketbrd88

    duketbrd88 Well-Known Member

    Sep 1, 2011
    Thanks Steve, that is what i was also wondering. It makes perfect sense.
     
  6. claybuster

    claybuster Well-Known Member

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    Nov 9, 2011
    That's funny. :rofl2:
     
  7. 50GI-Jess

    50GI-Jess Member

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    Aug 24, 2011
    Speaking of 230 gr. RN-Lead bullets.
    For the first time ever, I've got a 230 gr. RN tumble lube design from Lee, that simply won't shoot straight at all. Tried this bullet in a variety of guns, and it even key holes at 15 yds. Tried every trick in the book ! Sized, not sized, 12 brinell, 16 brinell hardness, slight taper and full taper crimp.
    Have any of you guys ever experienced this problem. Anyway, just gave up on this bullet mould design.
     
  8. claybuster

    claybuster Well-Known Member

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    Nov 9, 2011
    What's the O.D. on the bullet Jess?
     
  9. honda01

    honda01 Member

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    Jan 14, 2012
    A lot of bullseye shooters in my area are using 200gr LSWC over 3.5 of Bullseye powder. Soft recoil and good accuracy. Wilson combat uses this bullet type over 4.5 gr of N310 to do the accuracy checks on their guns.
     
  10. claybuster

    claybuster Well-Known Member

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    Nov 9, 2011
    Actually they use 4.8gr of Bullseye now.
     
  11. honda01

    honda01 Member

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    Jan 14, 2012
    Really? Have not seen any new Wilson guns lately...always like looking at the targets and the recipes listed.
     
  12. claybuster

    claybuster Well-Known Member

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    Nov 9, 2011
  13. 50GI-Jess

    50GI-Jess Member

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    Aug 24, 2011
    They're .452 so that seems OK. It's a brain buster ! Just can't figure that one out.
     
  14. duketbrd88

    duketbrd88 Well-Known Member

    Sep 1, 2011
    Thanks, good info!!!
     
  15. Legion489

    Legion489 Well-Known Member

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    Oct 28, 2011
    50GI-Jess, sounds like a typical lee bullet mold. I have quite a few of them and got several worthless ones, piss poor machining, bad chambers, etc., etc. Send it back to Lee and demand your money back or at least get it replaced. What they will probably do is cast a bullet in the mold, leave it in the mold and claim it is fine and send it back. SOP for Lee customer (dis)service. Admittedly, at the price you can buy several Lee molds and try them, but you never seem to have these problems with Lyman and RCBS.
     
  16. Huangxin

    Huangxin New Member

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    Apr 21, 2012
    4.0 grains of Bullseye with 200 grain LSWC are going to be accurate. If you do not care about 2 inch groups verses 4 inch groups buy what ever is cheaper.
     
  17. DeadEye

    DeadEye Member

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    Nov 18, 2011
    Assuming 230 and 200 heads at the same velocity you will not less recoil w/the 200 gr head
     
  18. Kruzr

    Kruzr Hangin' In Supporting Addict

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    Sep 7, 2011
    Recoil is a function of momentum or mass x velocity. If you shoot a 200 gr. round at the same velocity as a 230 gr. round with the same springs in the gun, there will be about a 13 percent ((1-200/230) x 100) reduction in the recoil of the 230 gr. You will notice the difference.
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2012
  19. DeadEye

    DeadEye Member

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    Nov 18, 2011
    I agree. My typo is corrected below:

    Assuming 230 and 200 heads at the same velocity you will notICE less recoil w/the 200 gr head
     

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