[darg]

Did ever any manufacturer made a 1911 with a slide of a Colt Defender size length (3” barrel) mounted to a full size Government or Commander frame or are all Defender length slides on Officers or CCO frames?
If so, was it 45 or 9mm? If so, a bobtail frame?

 

[fatbaldguy]

Remington put out something like that shortly before they went belly up. Executive something or other. Had a round butt frame. Never saw one in the wild.

 

[Illinois Sucks]

IIRC, Fusion had some such beast on its site a few months back, on its custom page.

Fusion Pro Line N-Comm, Elite Combat Carry, 45 ACP

Fusion Pro Line N-COMM (Commander frame/Officers top end) Elite Combat Carry model, custom shop, hand crafted.

fusionfirearms.com

 

[Uncle Bob]

IIRC, Fusion had some such beast on its site a few months back, on its custom page.

Fusion Pro Line N-Comm, Elite Combat Carry, 45 ACP

Fusion Pro Line N-COMM (Commander frame/Officers top end) Elite Combat Carry model, custom shop, hand crafted.

fusionfirearms.com

Do a deep dive here on Fushion products before you buy.

 

[boliep]

Wilson Combat Professional model is a 4 inch barrel on a full size grip.

 

[Illinois Sucks]

Wilson Combat Professional model is a 4 inch barrel on a full size grip.

4" is common with a full sized grip. Far closer to a 4.25" commander barrel than an officer's. Ed Brown's EVO KC9, Kimber Pro Carry, WC ...

 

[azguy1911]

Isn't the Sentinel Professional a full size frame with a 3.6" slide

I also think Colt made a reverse CCO with a short slide and full size frame.

 

[DHedgehog]

Dan Wesson ECP/TCP has a 4" bull barrel on a full sized frame.

 

[Au Jus in Bello]

True 3" barrels 1911s on full sized frames are uncommon. Para made the Executive Carry with a 3" barrel and full sized, bobtailed frame, in .45 ACP, but that's the only one I'm aware of.

Otherwise, if you jump to 3.5" or thereabouts, options open some. Colt did for a time offer a 3.5" barrel on a full sized frame -- the Colt Commanding Officer -- not to be confused with a CCO, which is the opposite set-up -- in both 9mm and .45 ACP.

And as mentioned above, Wilson offers a similar variant in the Sentinel Professional. There are more, I'm sure.

 

[darg]

True 3" barrels 1911s on full sized frames are uncommon. Para made the Executive Carry with a 3" barrel and full sized, bobtailed frame, in .45 ACP, but that's the only one I'm aware of.

Otherwise, if you jump to 3.5" or thereabouts, options open some. Colt did for a time offer a 3.5" barrel on a full sized frame -- the Colt Commanding Officer -- not to be confused with a CCO, which is the opposite set-up -- in both 9mm and .45 ACP.

And as mentioned above, Wilson offers a similar variant in the Sentinel Professional. There are more, I'm sure.

I’m not really fixed on the 3”, can be also 3.5” but less then 4 since that goes too close to a Commander length.
Will check them out.
Is the Para double stack? For carry a single stack would make it a speaker gun if single stack.

 

[Au Jus in Bello]

...Is the Para double stack? For carry a single stack would make it a speaker gun if single stack.

Single stack, I believe. Out of production near as I can tell, too, so you'd have to look on the used market.

 

[pistolwretch]

Carrying IWB, it is the frame that is hard to conceal.
Not the slide length.

Those 3"/3.5" guns are problematic.

 

[FWoo45]

^^^^This right here is the answer.^^^^ Which begs the question, why would you want this configuration?

 

[darg]

^^^^This right here is the answer.^^^^ Which begs the question, why would you want this configuration?

The grip of an Officer’s model is just a tad too short. I have two, a Colt Mk4 Officer’s and a Para CCO. It’s ok but not great. For my Para P12 I’m happy to have pinky rests on my mags but that’s a different story.
Other point would be: diversification.

 

[Dunkin]

I use the EGW mainspring housing/magwell on officer non-bobtail frames, adds .275'' to the length of the frame.

 

[ebolamonkey3]

Bul armory SAS II has 3.25 barrel and full size frame I think but it's double stack

 

[darg]

Bul armory SAS II has 3.25 barrel and full size frame I think but it's double stack

That would be like a P12. Rather looking for a sleeker gun maybe even with thin grips for carry, hence the question of finding one that is bobtailed.

 

[JimMuscles]

There's one called the tanker, but only 350 ever were made

 

[ebolamonkey3]

What's your budget? I mean you could ask NHC to make you a Counselor slide with a Delegate frame if money isn't an issue.

 

[CSM(RET)]

I can come close--- Colt 3 1/2" slide on an early Para P14 kit frame......