.38 Super Reloading

Discussion in 'Caliber Talk: Ammunition, Reloading, and Shooting ' started by drcfirearms, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. drcfirearms

    drcfirearms Forum Sponsor

    Aug 16, 2011
    So who is reloading .38 Super? It is the only caliber I reload for (Dillon Square Deal "B"). Let's hear some of your load recipes from the guys that roll their own?
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  2. rsxr22

    rsxr22 Member

    Aug 17, 2011
    I will let you know shortly since i got about 4k pieces of brass and bullets with the Nastoff gun i got, im going to load it up. Im probably going to load them to IDPA power floor however since I dont really have a division to shoot the gun in, im just going to shoot it at the range and then put it away.

  3. Cobra64

    Cobra64 Capitalist

    Aug 17, 2011
    I started with 5.6 gr. W231 under 125 gr. .356" FMJ Zero bullets at 1.260 COL in Starline brass with CCI primers.

    Not too long ago I switched to 6.8 gr. Vihtavuori 3N37 and prefer it over 231.
  4. drcfirearms

    drcfirearms Forum Sponsor

    Aug 16, 2011
    My preferred load is using 10.4g of VV N105, Starline Supercomp Brass, 124g Speer Gold Dots (when they existed) and CCI small pistol mag. primers. I really like the N105, as it shows no pressure signs whatsoever. This load will shoot in the 1,475 fps range out of a 5" gun, and 1,400 and change through a 4" barrel. I am a big, big fan of the Super......
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  5. Blayglock

    Blayglock Supporting Addict Supporting Addict

    Aug 18, 2011
    I actually have some 124 gr Speer Gold Dots. I found them yesterday but I bought them probably 2 years ago.
  6. acowboy

    acowboy New Member

    Oct 19, 2011
    hello guys!
    +1 for drc's load using n105.....very, very consistant, and no pressure signs. i chronographed 10 shots, 8 @1480, and 2 @ 1479....using 10.4 grs and rem small rifle primers with 125 gr hp. never loaded ANYTHING that consistant before, if my old oehler didnt lie.
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2011
  7. wichaka

    wichaka Member

    Sep 8, 2011
    Anyone using nickel plated brass? If so, how's it workin' for ya?
  8. Spokes

    Spokes Supporting Addict Supporting Addict

    Sep 18, 2011
    My favorite full power load is 130 grain Remington FMJ 10 grains AA#7 new or once fired nickel plated +P Remington cases...
    Range load is as follows, 135 grain RN Laser Cast 6 grains AA#5. Usually use the brass I had used for the full power loads.
    I find super brass does not last long. I shoot all my Supers from a Bar-Sto barrel.
    No velocity figures. Most of that information misplaced on my big move to Florida...
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  9. 3Baers

    3Baers 1911 oldie

    Oct 9, 2011
    38 Super Fan was nice enough to point me to this thread, so I thought I'd ressurect it and see if I could get and education.
    I've got quite a few 1911's in .45acp and I'm pretty much caught up on .45 projects. I have been thinking of expanding my horizons and
    getting into .38 Super. I've been doing some research and there appears to be several types of brass available. 38 Super, 38 Super +P,
    38 Super Comp, 38 Super TJ.....I'm so confused.
    I would like to get brass that woukld allow me to experiment a little bit but that I could get max life out of.
    That's my first question I guess, what brass to start aquiring and I reload on a Dillion RL-550B.
  10. BuckyP

    BuckyP Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2011
    I used AA7 at one time. It is very flat and consistent shooting. But it is DIRTY!! Not to mention, it seems to wear out barrels a bit quicker than other powders in my experience.
  11. Spokes

    Spokes Supporting Addict Supporting Addict

    Sep 18, 2011
    I cannot remember ever wearing out a handgun barrel. Only barrel I ever wore out was a Sako H.B. Forrester in 243 Winchester. That was shooting groundhogs in the hills of Carrol County Maryland.
  12. BuckyP

    BuckyP Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2011
    At about the 40K mark I was using a HALF grain more to make the same power factor (Nowlin barrel), and the groups had opened up a bit. With other powers, I get better than twice that.

    Admittedly, this was some time ago, and back when major power factor was 175. IIRC, the load began at 11.5g and was at 12.0 by the time I replaced the barrel. I first noted the declining velocities when I barely made power factor at an Area match, all 7 rounds fired to squeak a 175 pf. Luckily, I typically load to give myself a 4pf buffer.

    It's also possible that they made the powder cleaner from 15 years ago as well.

  13. Planemech

    Planemech New Member

    Jun 1, 2012
    Ok as to the brass question. First there is NO +P version of the 38 Super, it's often labeled that way by ammo manufacturers to help ease confusion with the 38 Auto which is much lower pressure but identical dimension wise. With Starline brass there is a difference in 38 Super and .38 Super+P brass, the +P is heavier duty, stronger brass as you would expect. The 38 Super comp is the 38 super+P brass only rimless- the regular super is semi rimmed- it can feed better, especially in double stack guns. .38TJ is 38 Super Comp brass with a different extractor grove to facilitate full length resize. I run a gun tuned so the Starline +P or supercomp will extract fine and load in supercomp cases, it's just easier that way to me and insures I don't have a feed issue in my carry gun. (It hasn't ever bobbled with regular Super brass, still it's one less thing to think about.)

    I'm also a fan of AA#7 and the 124 grain XTP/FMJ, Starline 38supercomp brass and WSP primers, I get good performance and reliable loads with this, no pressure signs. I see the N105 load, then I have a 9x23 that gets there and beyond on just 8.6 grains of Silhouette. :)
  14. noylj

    noylj Member

    May 20, 2012
    What do you want the load to do?
    .356-.357" 115gn L-SWC and 7.7gn AA5
    Precison 115gn L-RNFP and 8.1gn HS6
    Hdy 121gn JHP and 5.2-5.7gn 231/HP38, 9.5-10.0gn AA7, 5.6-6.8gn Silhouette or 6.7-7.7gn True Blue
    Zero "38 Super" 121gn JHP and 4.7-5.0gn AA2, 5.9 or 6.5gn AA5, 6.5-7.2gn Herco, 6.7-7.5gn Silhouette, 4.3gn Solo 1000, 7.3-8.3gn True Blue or 6.3-6.8gn WSF
    Montana Gold 124gn JHP and 5.7-6.4gn AA5, 6.5-7.4gn Herco, 7.5-8.3gn HS6, 8.5-9.0gn HS7, 5.7-7.3gn Silhouette and 5.9-6.4gn WSF
    All loaded to a COL over 1.210". Results are from four different guns, referencing those loads that were most accurate in all four.

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