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.45 ACP load's!

Discussion in 'Caliber Talk: Ammunition, Reloading, and Shooting ' started by rsxr22, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. rsxr22

    rsxr22 Member

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    Aug 17, 2011
    What are you guys using?

    I previously had run 200 gr L-SWC at 5.6 with Universal clays for a very good load and light recoil. However, I want to go to a quicker burning powder. What are you guys using
     
  2. 50GI-Jess

    50GI-Jess Member

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    Aug 24, 2011
    I use Vihtavouri N-310 for competition use. usually combined with the Bayoubullet 230 gr. RN in my S&W 625. In autos I like the 200 gr. SWC also from Bayou.
    For practice I use Titegroup.
     

  3. rsxr22

    rsxr22 Member

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    Aug 17, 2011
    What is the difference between VV and other slower burning powders?From what i understand, a slower burning powder will create less felt recoil allowing for faster follow up shots. But because VV and others are faster burning you can load with less powder, im confused
     
  4. Rinspeed

    Rinspeed Member

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    Aug 22, 2011
    My go to load is 5.8 Gr Unique with 230 Gr FMJ. One of these days I wil get around to ordering a thousand 200 gr. SWCs but for some strange reason I shoot mostly FMJ in 45.
     
  5. rsxr22

    rsxr22 Member

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    Aug 17, 2011
    you can drop that charge alot! I run my 200gr L-swc at 5.7 with universal clays, which is slower burning!! I love the 200's because they cut so damn big!
     
  6. 50GI-Jess

    50GI-Jess Member

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    Aug 24, 2011
    @rsx22,
    The combination of heavy bullets and fast burning pistol powder, gives the least amount of felt recoil. Like 230/255 gr. in 45 ACP. 147/160 gr. in 9mm etc.
    Professional shooters use this formular, depending on what type of pistol/game they are shooting.

    Fast burning powder reach the peak pressure faster, so the energy transfer is instant and thereby overwith. It has something to do with how some shooters like to track their fronsight. This tracking is regulated by the speed and movement of the slide.

    Most recreational shooters don't mind...or don't care, as long as the gun works fine. But if you're at a world championship, you need every advantage you can get. Of course we are talking about driving the gun to the extreme here. Like shooting 6 rds. on a 18x24 steel plate 8 yds. downrange in about a second.
     
  7. lsbbigdog

    lsbbigdog Smiffin' ain't easy Sponsor

    Aug 21, 2011
    I use 5.0gr of Red Dot with a 230gr FMJ
     
  8. 50GI-Jess

    50GI-Jess Member

    497
    Aug 24, 2011
    My competition load consist of 230 gr.RN Bayou Bullet with 4,3 gr.of N-310. coal.1.255 tc. 468. Gives 750 f/s and 172 in IPSC power factor. Any type LP primer in pistols, but only Fed.LP in revo.
     
  9. rsxr22

    rsxr22 Member

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    Aug 17, 2011
    Starting to understand a little bit better now! Thanks! So have you ever dabbled with REDDOT? It is like #8-9 on fastest burning powders and is $20 instead of N310's $36.
     
  10. 50GI-Jess

    50GI-Jess Member

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    Aug 24, 2011
    Never did have any experience with RD. I use only Bullseye, Titegroup and N-310 for IDPA/IPSC/Steel challenge loads. For magnums N-110, Blue Dot.
     
  11. Jbeck1911

    Jbeck1911 Member

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    Aug 31, 2011
    My God sent load seems to be 230 gr Hornady FMJ flat nose bullets, with 8.1 grs of Accurate #5 powder. Tack driver in all my 45's at 25 yrds! but every pistol is different, so if you try might need alil fine tuning for your piece. but my Springfield GI and HK USP love it!
     
  12. rsxr22

    rsxr22 Member

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    Aug 17, 2011
    8.1!! damn! I pulled a Speer GD and their charge was 7.8. Thats some hot loads!
     
  13. rick458

    rick458 New Member

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    Aug 31, 2011
    My Pet loads are

    Lazer Cast 200 LSWC with 5.2 grains of W 231 and CCI LP Primers
    Rem or Win 230 Ball with 5.4 grains of W 231 and CCI LP Primers
    Win 230 JHP with 5.6 grains of W 231 and CCI LP Primers
    Not the cleanest loads but very accurate and smooth shooting
     
  14. Jbeck1911

    Jbeck1911 Member

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    Aug 31, 2011
    I need to make a correction to my last post its 230gr hornady flat point FMJs with 8.3 grs of accurate #5. with CCI primer. and no the loads are not hot thats a medium load and dead accurate. still plenty good enough still for self defense and/or hunting if need be.

    "No.5 230 NOS FMJ 7.8gr 816fps 8.7gr 927fps 19,300psi 1.250" from Accurate reloading manual.

    Just wanted to show you its a safe medium/mild load at probably around 900 fps need to chrono still
     
  15. rsxr22

    rsxr22 Member

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    Aug 17, 2011
    I just got done rolling 3k 200 l-swc's with 4.5 gr's. Well see how they run. They seem way quicker then the stuff i did before with the universal clays. I tried the RD because it is #10 on the burn chart, right after bullseye and infront of titegroup. So we will see!
     
  16. Dwe

    Dwe I'm a terminal 1911 Addict!

    Sep 4, 2011
    5.4 of win 231 under 200 gr. lswc. And 5.7 of win 231. under 230 gr fmj's.
    both loads burn clean. When I run out of 231 I will try tightgroup i think.
     
  17. grainfed

    grainfed Active Member

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    Aug 22, 2011
    I just finished 1400 rounds of 230 gr. Berry FMJ over 4.8 gr. of Titegroup. Usual round is a Berry over 5.6 gr. of W231...........

    tw
     
  18. 50GI-Jess

    50GI-Jess Member

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    Aug 24, 2011
    For the first time ever, I have gotten a bullet that won't shoot without keyholing no matter what gun I shoot it in!
    It's the Lee 230 gr.RN 6 hole bullet mould designed for alox tumble lube. Tried everything ! Water hardened. Sized.451/452 and unsized. Different coal. and TC. What's amazing, is that it even keyholes at 15 yds with both my custom 1911's and Mec-Tec carbine. Another thing is the actual design. When loaded right using the small TC area on the bullet, the coal becomes too long 1.275".
    Any of you guys ever seen anything like that.
     
  19. wayne24263

    wayne24263 New Member

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    Sep 12, 2011
    200 gr. LSWC over 5.0 grains WST works well for me.
     
  20. Dave T

    Dave T New Member

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    Aug 27, 2011
    When I got my first Government Model (1974) I started loading Lyman's 225g RN over 5.1g of Red Dot. Shot that for about 3 years and did fine until I actually did some serious accuracy testing. Found it it didn't group very well (good enough for steel plate combat shooting though) so I switched to Unique on a friend's recommendation. Shot that with a 230g cast TC bullet over 5.8g until 1987 when my wife bought me a Oehler Model 33. Found out the Unique load varied by as much as 100 fps because it didn't meter well in my Star Universal. Again on the recommendation of another shooter I tried 231 next. Eventually settled on 6g of 231 behind a cast H&G #68 200g SWC. Shot 10s of thousands of those and still have a few thousand to go through. In the last couple years I've wanted to get away from lead in the system (mine) so I've switched to plated bullets from Berry's. Interestingly that same charge of 6g of 231 works with three different bullet weights - 230g RN, 200g RS and 185g RNHB. In 5" Government Models the 230g duplicates military Ball at 232-234 fps. The 200g RS comes out between 885 fps and 900 fps. The 185s do about 875 fps from a Glock 36 (3.78" barrel).

    Dave
     
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