And the addiction begins...

Discussion in 'General 1911 talk' started by Blue Ridge, Nov 25, 2011.

  1. Blue Ridge

    Blue Ridge Well-Known Member

    Nov 3, 2011
    Hi, folks. As some of you have followed, I've been in the market for my first 1911 and just sent a money order off for Wade's Vbob. Looking at my early posts from other forums before I found this place, I went from Rock Island to Ruger after reading the 1911's Buyers Guide sticky. Then decided I wanted an Spartan -because a 1911 is worth $650! I couldn't find what I wanted, nor a Ruger, so thought I'd be patient. In the meantime, I started Google imaging 1911's, to try to find my dream gun. Sad thing was, I had expensive tastes. I could never drop a thousand dollars on a handgun. But wait... I probably have that much in my competition Ruger, including optics and it's a .22. So, maybe I should say I'd never drop more than a thousand dollars on a handgun. As weeks went on, I started saving some more money. But I still wasn't paying over eleven, maybe twelve hundred. But it was just like walking down the computer isle at Best Buy. For another hundred bucks, you get something SO worth a hundred dollars! And for another $250, it's practically a whole 'nother machine! Such went 1911 shopping. I realized I wasn't going custom with my first gun so I was at the point a lot of people seem to wind up: Dan Wesson or Les Baer? Several people here were SO helpful in educating me on the differences -assuring me I couldn't go wrong with either and both held a good resale value if it turned out not to be for me. I will try to buy from David at DRC and you posters here when I'm able to buy my next 1911 or any parts, I can't say enough about how helpful everyone has been. In fact, on Thanksgiving, I saw Wade's ad and sent a link to Alan from Glocktalk asking him if I should buy that one or a new one. I figured it's Thanksgiving -hopefully I'll get a reply from him tomorrow. I had barely hit send before my phone rang! Al told me in no uncertain terms to buy that gun, and he could vouch for the seller and any gun he has owned is a gun you want! You can't pay for that kind of customer service!

    So to kill the time, until the drugs arrive, I guess I'll try to sort out any loose ends and think of any questions/things I need to know.

    Magazines: I'm guessing it will come with it's original two factory magazines, but I like to have several for each gun I own. Hopefully picking magazines will be easier than picking 1911's, but I'd appreciate any suggestions! Any certain mag known/not known to be a good match for that model, a particularly good value, one that's considered the best of the best, etc.?

    Ammo: Also, any suggested ammo? Mostly target rounds, but I would like a box of SD stuff in case I decide to carry this from time to time.

    Holster: I have a drawer full of nothing but holsters. I'd rather spend money upfront on this, I've only ever bought one inexpensive holster I liked (High Noon Split Decision). I want to shop with David so am looking at this: http://drc1911.com/holsters.htm I'll entertain other suggestions, but will probably buy this one anyway, just because David could have sold me a Les, but said the DW might be a better fit for what was important to me. That's like a charcoal salesman telling you a propane grill might suit you better! Of course, I think he's knows I'll probably end up with both anyway! :lol: But any links to leather porn always appreciated. Wait, it just occurred to me leather porn probably is a thing -so pictures of holsters!

    Lube/cleaning: Is there a favored oil (currently use Slip 2000 on wet guns/powdered moly on rimfires)? I don't use solvents to clean unless something needs soaked in denatured alcohol, usually just clean with oil, rags, patches, and once in a while compressed air so if there's a better procedure for a 1911, please let me know. I'm under the impression the finish of the gun is similar to the tough tenifer finish on my non-1911 black pistols, if I'm mistaken about that, please school me if my methods might ruin the finish!

    And if there's anything else you can think of that I'll need to have on hand or throw in the range bag, I'm all ears. Thanks as always. I'll make sure this thread pays off with photos, range report, all that good stuff. I don't even have possession of my 1911 yet and already can admit I have a problem. Oh well, off to search the Internet for pictures of other people's Vbob's with different grips on them....
     
  2. Chris

    Chris YOU ****!!!! Supporting Addict

    Aug 17, 2011
    Haha. Another victim of the "for a little more." :lol:

    Congrats BTW.

    The checkmate mags have been nothing but reliable with my Guardian.

    For ammo, I buy whatever brass I can find on sale. For carry, I prefer Gold Dots.

    Holsters? Very personal, but I like my VMII.

    For lube, I use Hoppe's, but I want to try Slide-Glide on the rails at some point.
     
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  3. Sir Guy

    Sir Guy Sharpening Ockham's Razor Supporting Addict

    Aug 20, 2011
    Magazines: Stick with quality, but know that you gun might like some over others. Chip McCormick (CMC) Power Mag and Power Mag+ are decent. Wilson 47s and the newer ETMs are both good; the ETMs are built from the ground up as dedicated 8-round magazines, and Alex was heavily involved in their design. Checkmate has been getting good reviews with their new extended 8-round hybrid feedlip magazines. Virgil Tripp's magazines are also high quality.

    1911s can be ammo sensitive. When I got my Guncrafter, I bought considerable numbers of the following loads:

    Hornady: XTP 200, XTP 185, XTP 230+P, TAP 200+P, TAP 230+P
    Remington: Golden Saber 230
    Speer: Gold Dot 230, Gold Dot 200+P, CCI Blazer Brass 230, Lawman 230
    Federal: HST 230, American Eagle 230
    Winchester: Ranger Bonded 230, Ranger T-series 230, Ranger T-series 230+P, PDX-1 (same as Ranger Bonded), WWB 230
    S&B: 230
    ASYM: Match 230

    ...to figure out what it liked and what it didn't. It can be a lot of trial and error! :smilie:

    As far as cleaning and lubrication supplies, you'll get lots of different opinions. Personally, I've been getting good results from Slip 2000 EWL, Wilson Combat Ultima-Lube II Oil (or Universal), and good ole Break-Free CLP.

    By the way, Dave's great to deal with! :thumb:

    Andy
     
  4. 50GI-Jess

    50GI-Jess Member

    497
    Aug 24, 2011
    Decisions...decisions... Been there in the past too.
    When I lived in Europe, we're only allowed to own one centerfire pistol. I really wanted a high end 1911 at the time, like Heinie, Wilson or Liebenberg and down that line.
    Anyway, I settled for a german made 1911 nock-off type custom, due to easier import and the price. Nothing but trouble and various problems with it. Over time I spend more money on trying to fix it, compared to buying what I should have from the get go.
    Later on I learned by the phrase " Buy quality and cry only once"
     
  5. kvtcomdo

    kvtcomdo Member

    45
    Sep 17, 2011
    Welcome to the addiction.

    Welcome, welcome, welcome.

    It is an addiction.

    Mags: I use the Wilsom mags already mentioned and they work great.

    Ammo: good hollow point from any of the major manufacturers that your gun likes. You'll have the pleasure of that experiment.

    Lube: any good lube will work as long as you keep your gun clean and use the lube regularily.

    Shoot the heck out of it.:thumb:
     
  6. DAT85

    DAT85 BIG OL' BALD HAID ! Supporting Addict

    Aug 26, 2011
    Congrats on the score!

    Now it begins,first the accessories,then the NEXT 1911! :lol:

    You have no idea how much time and money your going to be spending on this addiction.

    AND,how much fun it can be! :thumb:

    DAT85
     
  7. 50GI-Jess

    50GI-Jess Member

    497
    Aug 24, 2011
    Had a nightmare!
    dreamt that I was driving around in Berryville (1911 mekka), and saw a hughe billboard saying "1911 addiction ?...Need rehabilitation"
    call 1-800-rehab.
     
  8. Gress

    Gress Don't need no education Supporting Addict

    Nov 21, 2011
    :rofl2::rofl:
     
  9. Sean MacTavish

    Sean MacTavish Member

    53
    Sep 14, 2011
    Hey Blue Ridge Reef

    Do you want to sell any holsters ? I have a 5" FS and a 3" CS. I lived out by Warren Wilson College '91-'93, WNC is pretty country.
     
  10. awpk03s

    awpk03s Active Member

    821
    Aug 23, 2011
    Congrats on what will be a great pistol and the start to an expensive habit.

    Mags:
    - Having owned 3 Dan Wessons, the factory Checkmate mags were always flawless, but other good additions that I will recommend are:
    - Chip McCormick Power Mags (I really like the 10-8 Performance baseplates with these) http://www.10-8performance.com/products/CMC-Black-Power-Mag-w{47}10%2d8-Base-Pad.html
    - Wilson 47D or ETM mags. Without an extended magwell, I'd recommend 47Ds and a low profile baseplate.
    - Tripp Research mags.

    Ammo:
    As mentioned above, 1911s can be ammo sensitive. I will recommend several that work well for me:
    - ASYM Solid Defense 185gr Barnes +P http://store.chencustom.com/45_ACP_SOLID_DEFENSE_X_SDX_Barnes_185_gr_HP_P_s/78.htm
    - Double Tap ammo has been really good for me.
    - Target or FMJ rounds, WWB or Federal is good.

    Holsters:
    - Occidental Phoenix Stronghold
    - Milt Sparks VMII IWB or Mils Sparks Axiom OWB, Axiom pictured below:
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    Lube:
    - I use FP10 exclusively with great results. I also use Tetra grease on the frame rails.
     
  11. Blue Ridge

    Blue Ridge Well-Known Member

    Nov 3, 2011
    AWP, thanks, so much! I really appreciate all the suggestions, I'll let ya know the ones I try and I'll look into those mags now.

    Being this is my first 1911, I don't think any of the holsters I have would be a good choice. Now if you have a P99, P99c, PPK, Seecamp, Mauser, or Rossi .357, I might have a crappy holster for ya! I really don't even remember where they all came from, I think a couple came with guns. Good holsters make all the difference in the world, so can a belt. *I* wouldn't want to carry with anything in my holster drawer. Uncle Mike might be a nice guy, but he makes a punishing IWB holster! Cool that you know about the area, I'm very close to WWC.
     
  12. Sean MacTavish

    Sean MacTavish Member

    53
    Sep 14, 2011
    Thanks Man

    I enjoyed living there. I have a DeSantis OWB for my FS, good holster. I use the full size for combat shooting and practice. I am debating on OWB or IWB for the compact, it is for EDC.
     
  13. Blue Ridge

    Blue Ridge Well-Known Member

    Nov 3, 2011
    Well, she came today. I also bought a set of grips from Wade. I didn't think I was going to want them on the gun, I liked the VZs so much, but I put them on and really like them.
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    When I walked into my FFL to get this, I told him I was going to be a pest and ask to molest all his 1911s. Mind you, it's a pawn shop so they never go past about $700 unless there's something traded in. After feeling them and racking slides on them, then my new purchase, I am starting to understand the pricing on these things. Oh, and I spent $100+ in ammo, grabbed a Don Hume holster for now, some gun scrubber and a heavy duty AR wrench so my FFL didn't have to deal with my fingerprints on everything and only get the $15 transfer. Wade packed it very well, shipped it the day he got the money and I will buy a gun from that guy anytime. First impressions: I couldn't be happier. I won't go on a long rant about fit and finish, because this is my first 1911, and I can only compare it to much cheaper ones I have shot and seen. Obviously everything is superb to my eye. I haven't shot it yet, but unless a white flag comes out when I pull the trigger, I can't imagine this not being my favorite pistol!
     
  14. wade-19

    wade-19 Global Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    894
    Aug 17, 2011
    Glad you are happy with the purchase. You won't be disappointed when you shoot it . Just want to point out, the other grips are Davidson Horned Lizards, not VZs. Just incase you ever want to sell them.
     
  15. Gress

    Gress Don't need no education Supporting Addict

    Nov 21, 2011
    Love the BOB :smile:
     
  16. Blue Ridge

    Blue Ridge Well-Known Member

    Nov 3, 2011
    Well, got her out yesterday. It was a really weird trip out, and I left my camera behind. Fortunately my buddy's girlfriend had an Iphone and snapped some.

    I got to my friend's house, and we were setting up to shoot when his neighbor who is NEVER home on Sunday afternoons came home. We decide to just head to the indoor range, rather than deal with the likely complaint. It's totally legal, but he rents, so I get it. Anyway, a local fella who helps move heavy stuff for my mom called, and I told him where I was heading. He said to come out to his place, and I could shoot all I wanted. Always happy to check out a place to shoot that won't bother anyone, so we accept. His property backs right up to Interstate 40, and we could not possibly have been shooting more than 15 yards from the highway! But evidently, this 50 year old man has lived there all his life and it was okay... So we begin to shoot. I was beyond impressed with the Vbob, my only disappointment was the brightness of the front sight. It's a 2010 gun, so I doubt I'd be happy with a new set. Or maybe I'll get used to them, we'll see. The trigger is great!
    I was sighting the Eotech on my AR when I saw a neighbor approach. I thought, "here goes our afternoon of shooting." When I hear him yell "Mind if join you boys?" :lol: Well, we got to talking, and he has a machine shop. He offers to show it to me, and I say "sure, what do you make?" Well, lots of suppressors and weapon parts, evidently! I only have one photo from his shop, and it came in since I started this post, so I'll post them as they come... and you guys can tell me what they are pictures of! :biggrin1:
    This machine has closing doors, and is about the size of a car. It looks like a lathe for metal, but I'll let you tell me.
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    I took a few of gun parts, as well as some of the presses and stuff. They'll come as soon as I get them.
     
  17. Blue Ridge

    Blue Ridge Well-Known Member

    Nov 3, 2011
    The pictures are trickling in slooowly. But here's the next one:
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    Edit, and more...
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  18. too_pure

    too_pure Employed

    550
    Nov 9, 2011
    "Ahhh... but I'd trade it all for a little more..."

    I have lived your thought process many times. I am still not in the high end market yet, but I'm thinking next year could be my year for a long awaited Brown.

    Welcome to the addiction!
     

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