[Bradd_D]

I'm grateful that my range provides cleaning stations with D-Lead soap. I've never seen that at any other range I have been to.

 

[Greenleader]

I am going to get tested. I am a brass monkey at the range picking up, sorting, not to mention shooting. Sometimes stay all day and never once thought about it. Kind of like dirt.

I’ll post my score

I feel a whole lot like @IronBalaclava described

 

[Bleusharque]

For obese patients out of options, they are a game changer and they are safe. Obesity is the number one killer in this country. These drugs have saved countless lives. When was the last time you saw a morbidly obese 85-year-old? I'll answer that question for you. You haven't.

I think it was four or five years ago, at my doctor's office I weighed in at 232lbs. I was 5' 9" tall. I have a photo of myself at that time, and I looked like an escaped Chinese spy balloon. Same time, my doc urged me to sign up for a drug research study. The drug was Semaglutide, and the study was to determine if the drug could help prevent or ameliorate kidney damage in Type II diabetics. In the end, it did, but along the way, I started losing weight. Same time, knowing I was a ton overweight, I stopped eating lunch.

Now, at age 81, i am 60 lbs lighter. I continue to take the drug, now known as "Ozempic," nominally to help control my diabetes. I still avoid lunch, except for an excuse to meet with my non-shooting buddies. And I hold my weight at around 167.

So, at age 81, what do I gain? Maybe a few more years, each one of which I value like diamonds. And the ability to move around and go shooting from time to time. And spend time with my daughter and wife. And wake up each day looking forward to a day of health and well being.

My point is, if you are offered a weight loss drug, or have one recommended by your doctor. take it! Watch your diet! Walk around. Dry fire. Lift a little weight. Shoot!

Alpina's message is clear: take care of yourself. We need every one of our Addicts, including you. And me. 🦈

 

[Bleusharque]

Gotcha, I thought you were recommending for everyone including the non-obese.

In those who don't need to lose weight, Ozempic is good for controlling Type II diabetes. If you are not obese and are not T-II diabetic, you're golden. 🦈

 

[IronBalaclava]

I am going to get tested. I am a brass monkey at the range picking up, sorting, not to mention shooting. Sometimes stay all day and never once thought about it. Kind of like dirt.

I’ll post my score

I feel a whole lot like @IronBalaclava described

Yeah. Might be a good idea to get tested.

Now that you jogged my decaying memory, one of the things that would make us Range Nazis cringe the hardest, was when the Brass Hounds would scoop up large amounts of brass in our jumbo dustpans and dump the brass, plus copious amounts of range detrious into their range bags that always resulted in a huge, puff of grey dust! 😶

Hint: It was not the pilfering of brass that made us all go:

Coincidentally, the color and expression of these 3 fellers are what all of us would look like, after a full downrange/filtration system cleaning.

 

[rexm]

Great thread and thanks for bringing the topic back to light for those that never knew how bad lead can be.

About 30yrs ago once a week we shot an IPSC style match at an old indoor and another gunshop owner's young son started feeling bad over a high lead level so wearing a mask became mandatory. 3M makes a welding mask like a thick dust mask with an exhaust valve, no intake cartridges but works fine. Wear tight fitting glasses also, your eyes can absorb it also if you have dry eyes. I reloaded also also but never had a problem through a year of that. Our local range was outdoors with quite a few matches a month but never a problem there.

 

[None.Ya]

The range closest to our house has very poor ventilation.
Sometimes your lungs would hurt when you left.
Wearing a mask seemed to make a difference.

We moved to a range that has proper ventilation.
You rarely see anything in the air.
They also keep D Lead soap in the restroom.
I'm less concerned here, but thought I would ask.

Thanks.

 

[philk]

This got me remembering when we were kids back in the ‘60s me and my brothers would shoot bullseye .22s in the basement. Dad would buy us CCIs buy the case. And the floor I remember was covered with grey dust. Nobody thought anything of it. Wow.

 

[Greenleader]

Yeah. Might be a good idea to get tested.

Now that you jogged my decaying memory, one of the things that would make us Range Nazis cringe the hardest, was when the Brass Hounds would scoop up large amounts of brass in our jumbo dustpans and dump the brass, plus copious amounts of range detrious into their range bags that always resulted in a huge, puff of grey dust! 😶

Hint: It was not the pilfering of brass that made us all go:
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Coincidentally, the color and expression of these 3 fellers are what all of us would look like, after a full downrange/filtration system cleaning.

Yea indoors I’m not terrible greedy unless nobody is there then I getting every peice. I kick it to the wall and pick it up. I do use their rubber squeege thing to reach a few. Outdoors I take a 16x16 tarp and catch everything, pour in a bucket and then sort later. I’m dropping the indoor range for the noise and closeness. I’m not into standing next to some dude blasting away with an AR. But I may walk outside and wait until he’s done with his range bucket see if he leaves his brass. 🤔

 

[Quickish]

A random thought - every single human is slowly dying. Living well and enjoying your passions...priceless. To quote Frank Sinatra, "My Way" works just fine for me.

 

[IronBalaclava]

The range closest to our house has very poor ventilation.
Sometimes your lungs would hurt when you left.
Wearing a mask seemed to make a difference.

We moved to a range that has proper ventilation.
You rarely see anything in the air.
They also keep D Lead soap in the restroom.
I'm less concerned here, but thought I would ask.

Thanks.

That's most indoor ranges, unfortunately.

The last 2 ranges I ran (the last one I specifically stated in my contract, NOT to run range at all and just run gun shop operations, but I felt bad for the range guys and helped anyways), both had state of the art, multi-million dollar, 5-stage filtration systems with MANCOM electronic/programmable range systems.

The 5-Stage filtration system consisted of a: Fresh air recycler, Wet Snail trap, multiple pre-filters, bag filters and lastly, HEPA Filters.

All maintenance was preformed religiously (even downrange, while range operations were on going-the 10s of 1000s of clangs/thuds daily from various projectiles impacting the snail trap armor while you were behind it, sweating ass off in MOPP 4 never got old). Even then, despite whatever you did, after a very busy Friday or Saturday of rifle and pistol fire, the surfaces would still look like the table in this pic. The tables are black normally. Guess what that lovely, fine coating is?

Great thread and thanks for bringing the topic back to light for those that never knew how bad lead can be.

About 30yrs ago once a week we shot an IPSC style match at an old indoor and another gunshop owner's young son started feeling bad over a high lead level so wearing a mask became mandatory. 3M makes a welding mask like a thick dust mask with an exhaust valve, no intake cartridges but works fine. Wear tight fitting glasses also, your eyes can absorb it also if you have dry eyes. I reloaded also also but never had a problem through a year of that. Our local range was outdoors with quite a few matches a month but never a problem there.

Yep. Every other week I ROed/shot indoor IPSC/IDPA/Bowling pin Leagues.
Any mask is better than no mask.

Headaches. lightheadedness, dizziness. All the norms. Well, that and not trying to get shot and or catch ricochets and jacket separation splash back in the jugular, lol.

 

[IronBalaclava]

Oh, another I neglected to mention was that "Taste".

You know the one. That sickly, sweet taste you can't seem to get out the back of your throat, no matter what you do or how much you hock loogies, gargle water and blow black chit out of your nose after an hour range session?

Well, that's how fine powered lead tastes. So in addition to breathing it in and wearing it, you're also eating it!

 

[Jimhoag]

I shoot at a outdoor range and once or twice in the winter I'll go to Buds in Lexington to shoot indoor

 

[Illinois Sucks]

I just coincidentally finished cleaning 3 filthy 1911s from my last range trip. My hands were covered in lead, oil, metal dust and filth. I just ordered lead wipes and lead removing hand soap from the commie marketplace that starts with an A for A-hole and won't ship revolver grips inside the crappy state of IllAnnoys. Now, I'm paranoid, having already had cancer once.

 

[GoodGuyWithAGun]

Great post, I shoot at an outdoor
Club but there are other risks you may not think about my lead was elevated once due to shot shell reloading handling spent hulls and harvesting brass. Now I wear gloves when handling hulls and wear a mask and vent my workshop when processing range brass, sorting etc. Now my primary Dr checks lead levels on my routine checkups. And I drink bourbon because its delicious.

 

[rexm]

A random thought - every single human is slowly dying. Living well and enjoying your passions...priceless. To quote Frank Sinatra, "My Way" works just fine for me.

And no truer words, if you're born you are just losing a day until you die so enjoy the time between the start and the end. I don't understand people afraid of dying, it's inevitable so step into reality man.

Iron Balaclava, I get it as RO'ing. We didn't have idiots but backsplash sucked shooting steel. Lead wasn't bad but occasionally someone would shoot jacketed in a match and we'd set them straight. Plates weren't bad but we had human silhouettes set up like bowling pins at 15yds to mow down for quickest time, that got you splatter.

 

[marinor]

I just coincidentally finished cleaning 3 filthy 1911s from my last range trip. My hands were covered in lead, oil, metal dust and filth. I just ordered lead wipes and lead removing hand soap from the commie marketplace that starts with an A for A-hole and won't ship revolver grips inside the crappy state of IllAnnoys. Now, I'm paranoid, having already had cancer once.

Don't you wear gloves when cleaning?
unfortunately, I only have access to an indoor range, but I guess the good news is is that it has or touts having, an excellent filtration system. They do provide lead wipes and I always use them after I finish up there, but I never thought of having clothes specifically for range use only and just wash them in the washing machine with my other clothes.
Also, in a few years that I'm going to the range, I've yet to see a single person wear a mask. I wonder how the RSO's deal with this.

 

[Illinois Sucks]

Don't you wear gloves when cleaning?
unfortunately, I only have access to an indoor range, but I guess the good news is is that it has or touts having, an excellent filtration system. They do provide lead wipes and I always use them after I finish up there, but I never thought of having clothes specifically for range use only and just wash them in the washing machine with my other clothes.
Also, in a few years that I'm going to the range, I've yet to see a single person wear a mask. I wonder how the RSO's deal with this.

I have rubber surgical gloves and tried using them in the past, but they interfere with my grip so much I don't really use them. Same goes for shooting gloves. Guess I'm just a direct contact kinda guy.

 

[marinor]

I have rubber surgical gloves and tried using them in the past, but they interfere with my grip so much I don't really use them. Same goes for shooting gloves. Guess I'm just a direct contact kinda guy.

I use rubber surgical gloves when cleaning the guns and seem to work well with me in terms of dexterity. I always wore shooting gloves when shotgun shooting, but I just can't get used to them with the pistols.

 

[Hanabi1911]

There are these new little respirators that clip inside your nostrils, kind'a look like a small nose piercing. Guys I shoot IDPA with at an indoor range are starting to wear them. They're pretty black when they take them out after a night of shooting. Not sure of the brand, or who makes them, but I could find out if someone wants to know. They sure beat a full-face rig.