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Discussion in 'General 1911 talk' started by Bobthemotorcycle, Feb 1, 2012.
"one of the best made 1911's out there"
That is one heck of a statement.
I know the sales manager at Kahr/Auto Ordnance. When I talked to her at a distributor show a few years back she told me the frame is cast and the slide is barstock. They may have gone to a barstock frame, but that still doesn't mean "forged" as you mentioned. They are a decent enough base gun.
I'm not a huge believer in forged over anything else when it comes to .45 caliber 1911's. Caspian frames hold up just great for what they are. When shooting for dimensional accuracy in machining, billet frames and slides have the ability to be more consistent than anything else. Early Les Baer frames and slides, and Rock River frames and slides were made by LMT and were extremely consistent. Those were all billet steel.
How many Auto-Ords have you inspected? Surely you wouldn't say something like this
based on just the one that you own?
This is sounding like an infomercial. Does it come with a sham-wow?
I had a pet donkey once. It was very well made.
You ever have any Failure to Feed issues with that thing...:tongueout:
Yeah. One time with hay.
The only thing I am going to say about Auto-Ord is they HAVE improved in overall fit,finish and reliably since the "moonies" bought them out.
Now,my shop only sends 1 in 5 back for FTF or major FTE problems. :rolleyes2:
And no matter who says what about AO,they have to admit their CS isn't anywhere close to Springfield's.
I worked on one...once...a couple two years ago. All I will say is... NEVER AGAIN! I'd take a RIA over an AO any day! But that's just my opinion based on having to work on ONE example...but that was enough...heck, I'd take that Donkey over an AO! LOL!
The old models were rough as a corn cob.At least EXTERNALLY,their cleaning up their act.
The first ones I remember were sold by SARCO back in the '80's.They were very crudely finished and totally out of spec.Nothing seemed to fit right on the guns and internally they were loaded with tool marks and had a crude park finish that was uneven at the best.
So,I guess you could say the have improved......a bit.
Ok, I think I am gonna run a poll:
AO or donkey?
I just coated one and the casting on the lower was awful. I will try to take some pics.
But there is no way it is cast according toth op! I will stick with caspian.
With all due respect sir, it sounds like you are trying to sell their 1911s. Are you employee there or work on commission?
I'll take a donkley, its hay and an AO with a corn cob textured FS
It definitely sucked, but after doing it for 23 years I can't imagine a better career field. Would I do it again? Probably not. SF works longer than any other career field, has worse hours, always in the elements, have longer deployments (by several months) and get **** on by everyone. Not a "fun" or "glamorous" career field by any means. But, we get to see combat whereas most USAF members don't.
Sir, I really hope you are right and the quality has improved as much as you say. In my opinion the AO 1911 is a good looking 1911, and if they quality is good it would make a very good project gun; unfortunately their quality has always been very poor. I think the main problem here is your statement, "If people can get past the fact that they are an 80 series type pistol they may realize that Auto Ordnance is producing one of the best made 1911's out there and at an entry level price"; that is a very strong statement.
I have not handled an AO recently and I do not own a RIA either, but I shoot 2 RIAs Government quite often and they have always worked flawlessly; I think the RIA is a very good gun for the money.