Build times and gunsmiths

Discussion in 'Nighthawk Custom' started by Nineteen-ElevenObsession, Jun 29, 2020.

  1. Nineteen-ElevenObsession

    Nineteen-ElevenObsession Active Member

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    Jun 21, 2020
    Out of curiosity, does anyone know on average how long the NHC smiths put into a build? 20 hours, 30 hours? Less, more? Just wondering how long they dedicate to each build. I mean theoretically, I could see them being able to build a complete gun in an 8 hour day, considering their expertise and the quality of the parts. But I'm sure they put in a bit more than that.

    Also, for my build I'm looking to request either Travis Gregory, Bryan Chaney or Joey Lehr to do the work. I'm wanting to have on of the guild members do the build, which TG and BC are. I know Joey isn't yet, but I know he builds most of the Marvel guns and his stippling work is amazing. I'd be happy to have any of the above do the build.

    Any others to consider in your experiences?
     
  2. pcar157

    pcar157 Well-Known Member

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    Jan 22, 2019
    Don't forget Allan Wyatt!
     

  3. rockittsled

    rockittsled Active Member

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    Apr 8, 2020
    Interesting question for any smith to answer.
     
  4. FWoo45

    FWoo45 Well-Known Member

    Jan 13, 2017
  5. Karl Beining

    Karl Beining Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 8, 2015
    I can't say I have ever put myself on a clock per-se, but 40-150 hours, depending on all the variables that come to mind
     
  6. Nineteen-ElevenObsession

    Nineteen-ElevenObsession Active Member

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    Jun 21, 2020
    My understanding is that he's head of R&D now so he's not really doing many builds for customer guns these days. He designed the NHC classic which is sharp. But heading up R&D is a pretty sweet gig I bet.
     
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  7. Nineteen-ElevenObsession

    Nineteen-ElevenObsession Active Member

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    Jun 21, 2020
    If I had to make an educated guess for places like NHC, WC, etc, I'd say probably somewhere in the ball park of 20-25 hours total build time including finishing.

    Just imagine they have to put some type of cap on it based on the number of guns each year.
     
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  8. Karl Beining

    Karl Beining Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 8, 2015
    I don't doubt that one bit, that may even be on the high side for standard 'catalog' builds.
     
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  9. rmac

    rmac Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

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    Jan 26, 2016
    There was a thread on this in the past 6-8 months. Rob Schauland of Alchemy Gun pretty much nailed it.
    Do a search of the thread and prepare to be amazed.
     
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  10. UBOATDOC

    UBOATDOC THE DOCTOR WILL SEE YOU......LATER Supporting Addict

    Apr 5, 2015
    I am confident that a "solo" Smith or smaller shop such as Karl's, Steve's and our other esteemed colleagues put quite a bit of time into each build, whereas the larger shops are a bit more "assembly line" especially the catalogue guns. I certainly hope to have a gun built up individually someday....perhaps as a retirement gift to myself
     
  11. rockittsled

    rockittsled Active Member

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    Apr 8, 2020
    :)
    Ever just spend an hour or two just looking, racking, and just "Damn, I'm good"
     
  12. Karl Beining

    Karl Beining Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 8, 2015
    :D:D Not often, most times that warm fuzzy feeling doesn't come until the customer gets it and likes it
     
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  13. Dub

    Dub born in the wrong century

    Mar 19, 2017
    :thumbs:

    :thumbs: :cheers:


    :usa:



    You, sir, made me glad I kept reading this thread.
     
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  14. simonp

    simonp Well-Known Member

    May 27, 2016
    And that is exactly why going to a solo stellar smith will produce a better quality gun than purchasing or sending a gun to an assembly line shop like NH or Wilson. You get what you pay for!

    Thank you @Karl Beining
     
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  15. Karl Beining

    Karl Beining Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 8, 2015
    Better has many connotations, and I make no claim to being any of them over another shop, I just want to build guns the way I see fit, for clients that like the way I see fit, if that makes sense . . . I appreciate the kind sentiments
     
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  16. Brennerman

    Brennerman Active Member

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    May 12, 2020
    Never heard Nighthawk to be compared to an assembly line before. Wilson combat, sure I can see that since there are a few hands on each handgun.
     
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  17. JM44

    JM44 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Feb 2, 2018
    No idea on timing. You listed some good smiths there. I also like Brennon High, he builds lasers
     
  18. Nineteen-ElevenObsession

    Nineteen-ElevenObsession Active Member

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    Jun 21, 2020
    Sometimes but not always. I recently saw a $5,500 new build from a very well respected smith that had enough gap between the slide and frame to see the recoil spring. That in my opinion is unacceptable.
     
  19. rmac

    rmac Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

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    Jan 26, 2016
    If you don’t want a cracked dust cover there MUST be some gap between the dust cover and the slide. Said gap is not noticeable on most builds because of using a full length guide rod.
     
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  20. Genes 1911

    Genes 1911 Well-Known Member

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    Nov 10, 2019
    If NC is a "production" outfit, and bar stock parts snap together like Legos,I've been had!
    In truth, the 5 month build back log has to be a marketing gimmick.....