[FrankG]

Greetings all...have had a C&R for a number of years, don't use it all that much but comes in handy when needed so to me worth the $30...so the renewal form comes in the other day, well ahead of the March 2020 expiration...nice job BATF...in years past, I never put anything down in section B Hours of Operation..for some reason I felt the need to email BATF asking should i leave it blank or just write in "Collector"? The reply was "It is required that you provide one hour in which ATF will be able to contact you if needed".

The 2nd part of this - back page, C. 7a "How many firearms have you bought or acquired with your firearms license in the last 3 years"? Pretty straight forward question. What i don't understand is 7b "How many firearms have you sold or disposed of with your firearms license over the past 3 years"? If I'm disposing /sold any firearm, I'm using the provided FFL of the buyer...has nothing to do with mine. If I'm selling to a buyer in-state, again, FFL not required if I have no reason to doubt a buyers eligibility to possess a firearm. How would one use their C&R to dispose of a firearm? Not in the business of selling/buying so that isn't the issue...can't figure that one out..

 

[TexasRedneck]

So, answer "None" and don't overthink it.

 

[mlea5150]

They just want to compare your acquisitions with your dispositions to make sure that you’re not using your C&R as a business.

 

[FrankG]

They just want to compare your acquisitions with your dispositions to make sure that you’re not using your C&R as a business.

Makes sense...thank you.

 

[El Perdido]

So, answer "None" and don't overthink it.

And if ATF actually visits during the hours the OP stated on the license, and they look at his book and find that "none" is a false answer, what happens then?

 

[Babboonbobo]

If you go the atf.gov website to find the forms to apply for a C&R license it just says form not found. Anyone have the link to find this form to apply for a license?

 

[TexasRedneck]

And if ATF actually visits during the hours the OP stated on the license, and they look at his book and find that "none" is a false answer, what happens then?

If you used your C&R to acquire the weapon and subsequently sell it, yeah - you'd need to show it. But not anything you did NOT acquire using it.

 

[FrankG]

I always understood once you got your C&R, any acquisition of a C&R, regardless if the license was used or not, had to be entered into the bound book? For instance, I acquired a few C&R pistols within state, didn't use the license but entered them in the bound book...

 

[TexasRedneck]

One of the reasons I've never bothered with one - regulatory issues can be confusing, and if you mess up it's NOT a pleasant experience.

 

[FrankG]

If you go the atf.gov website to find the forms to apply for a C&R license it just says form not found. Anyone have the link to find this form to apply for a license?

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/apply-license

 

[mlea5150]

I always understood once you got your C&R, any acquisition of a C&R, regardless if the license was used or not, had to be entered into the bound book? For instance, I acquired a few C&R pistols within state, didn't use the license but entered them in the bound book...

That is correct. You don’t actually use your license, you ARE a licensee, so any C&R eligible firearm you acquire as a licensee must be logged, whether you actually had to show your license or not.

 

[gun_fan111]

Interesting info. What happens if you decide not to renew this license?

 

[mlea5150]

Interesting info. What happens if you decide not to renew this license?

As I understand it, if you let the license expire, you are no longer obligated to keep the bound book of acquisitions and dispositions made while licensed.

 

[AF_ONE]

Doesnt make sense that obligations and records would end upon expiration.