Can I get some advice on a match barrel/bushing, or just a bushing, please ?

Discussion in '1911 Gunsmithing' started by Longbow, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. Longbow

    Longbow Well-Known Member

    568
    Aug 15, 2018
    Hi, guys...

    I fitted this together myself, from a SA Loaded model, and it came out great....
    Trigger pull is a crisp 5#, with the Harrison hammer and ignition. Wilson match trigger, Ed Brown and EGW smaller parts, and a KC Kustom ambi-safety.
    Functions great, and runs great, with zero issues so far.

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    But I've never fit a match barrel, and the groups aren't too spectacular with the factory barrel and bushing.

    Do I need a barrel, or just a bushing, and if so, which ones ?
    A link would be helpful lol.

    What measurements do I have to take, bearing in mind that I have ZERO machining skills.
    Which barrel would be the best, and easiest for a novice to fit ?

    Am I jumping in too deep, with both feet ?

    Thanks in advance !!
     
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  2. David R

    David R Well-Known Member

    381
    Oct 7, 2018
    I would measure the barrel OD and bushing ID.
    I would measure slide ID and bushing OD.

    I would put just the bushing in the slide and see if it has any wiggle.

    Start there.

    Exactly what size groups and from how far?

    David
     
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  3. Busa Dave

    Busa Dave Well-Known Member

    Mar 3, 2018
    After having quite a few guns modified and built I can tell you with 100% certainty that it is more important to ensure the fitment is perfect vs a "match" barrel and bushing not fit perfectly. Seems like an obvious statement but I have pistols with perfectly fit Colt barrels and bushings that shoot with my full up customs made with custom tubes.... Just my .02.
     
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  4. Longbow

    Longbow Well-Known Member

    568
    Aug 15, 2018
    About 3 to 4 inches at 15 yards. Maybe a little more.
     
  5. mikegalway

    mikegalway CEO of DILLIGAF industries Supporting Addict

    Feb 23, 2014
    Are you shooting off hand or checking with a ransom rest ? There's more to getting tight groups than barrel and bushings . rail to slide fitment , link , etc . If you really want a new barrel and bushing , there's always Brownells .
     
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  6. Longbow

    Longbow Well-Known Member

    568
    Aug 15, 2018
    I'm shooting off a rest... If I try that off hand it'd probably be a 12 inch group :D
     
  7. David R

    David R Well-Known Member

    381
    Oct 7, 2018
    Can you shoot a different gun better?

    4” at 15 yards is bad.

    Can you get someone else to shoot it?

    Please get measurements asked for. It’s a start.

    David
     
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  8. mikegalway

    mikegalway CEO of DILLIGAF industries Supporting Addict

    Feb 23, 2014
    A picture of your group would be helpful . Is it a round loose group , or is it wider vertically or horizontally ? I would also get a book on accurizing the 1911 . May save you time , money , and help you realize what you can or can't do .
     
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  9. David R

    David R Well-Known Member

    381
    Oct 7, 2018
    Is this resting? Can you shoot better than that with another gun?

    4" @ 15 yards is not good

    David

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  10. azpoolguy

    azpoolguy Well-Known Member

    Jul 4, 2013
    A new barrel is not something a novice should fit.

    The rabbit hole that is barrel fit is bottomless.


    An EGW barrel bushing is a cheap and easy option to try.
     
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  11. Longbow

    Longbow Well-Known Member

    568
    Aug 15, 2018
    It’s just this one that shoots badly.
    I’m sure it’s the barrel or bushing, or both.
     
  12. David R

    David R Well-Known Member

    381
    Oct 7, 2018
    Need measurments. Replacing the bushing may or not be needed. Please supply information asked for. You will need those numbers if a custom bushing is going to be ordered.

    No one here can tell you what is causing the inaccuracy without more information.

    It was already said fit of barrel and bushing are more important than the parts themselves.

    David

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