Colt Defender for first 1911

Discussion in 'Beginner's Corner' started by dreis454, Nov 27, 2011.

Which 1911 for a first timer

Poll closed Dec 27, 2011.
  1. Colt Defender (which I'm leaning towards)

    11 vote(s)
    55.0%
  2. S&W 1911sc 'E' series

    9 vote(s)
    45.0%
  1. dreis454

    dreis454 New Member

    15
    Aug 22, 2011
    Until now I have been a Glock & Ruger owner, My Glocks are a 21 (.45acp) a 36 (.45acp) and a Ruger LC9

    I have always been interested in 1911s and might be coming into a few bucks & im looking to buy my first 1911.

    I have a soft spot in my heart for Colt products since I was born in Hartford,CT and have always lived within 30 minutes from the city.
    Being that I now live in extreme northern CT I am also only about 10 minutes from the S&W headquarters.

    The 2 1911s that I am currently interested in are the Colt Defender (.45 and the S&W 1911sc 'E' series.

    I will be putting the gun into my carry rotation (seasonal) along with the G36 & Ruger LC9 so a light gun with a shorter barrel is preferred.

    Are there any issues with either of these guns?
    Which is the better choice for a first time 1911 owner?

    EDIT: Please explain your vote....
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2011
  2. DAT85

    DAT85 BIG OL' BALD HAID ! Supporting Addict

    Aug 26, 2011
    I would go for a full size 1911(S&W if you must) for a first 1911.There is nothing wrong with a Defender,but for someone just getting into the 1911 platform,a 5" pistol would PROBABLY be the way to fly.

    Plus,I have seen one of the first "E" series production guns,and for the price,it is a nice gun.A lot smoother finish than the last Colt Defender that I handled.
    As far as an external extractor is concerned,S&W seems to do them right.And they have top shelf customer service if you have an issue.

    Just my.02

    DAT85
     

  3. Rob Alderman

    Rob Alderman Member

    50
    Oct 24, 2011
    I NEVER disagree with DAT, but I will only say that my first 1911 was a Colt Defender and I love it. Carry it every day and it's crazy accurate for a small gun and never given me one problem. With that said, I am looking for a full size now. After
    Shooting some, I want the balance for the range.
     

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  4. DAT85

    DAT85 BIG OL' BALD HAID ! Supporting Addict

    Aug 26, 2011
    I have absolutely no problem with being proven wrong! :grin:

    And,after the OP buys either a full size 1911 or a Defender,he has an excuse to buy another 1911,and another,and another,and another........:lol:

    DAT85
     
  5. Bender

    Bender Supporting Addict Supporting Addict

    Aug 15, 2011
    While I am not an external extractor fan,......I voted for the Smith.
    I feel the Commander sized 1911 is a fine ballance between shootability & concealment.
    Never cared for the feel of the Defender.
     
  6. Cerebrus

    Cerebrus Push to test, release to detonate

    Aug 17, 2011
    I voted Colt as I cannot stand S&W autos.. any of em
     
  7. knedrgr

    knedrgr Low capacity, low tech...

    Aug 15, 2011
    I didn't vote for either choices as I personally don't like the look of the S&W, nor am I a Colt fan.

    However, having an officer 1911 shouldn't be a problem for your first 1911. There are plenty of reliable production 1911 officers out there.

    If you want the best of both world, look at a CCO platform.
     
  8. DAT85

    DAT85 BIG OL' BALD HAID ! Supporting Addict

    Aug 26, 2011
    +1
    And,if Colt floats your boat,TALO distributors has a run of them out on the market.
    Check GUNBROKER .

    DAT85
     
  9. dreis454

    dreis454 New Member

    15
    Aug 22, 2011
    Thanks for all the advise....keep 'em coming.
     
  10. G27RR

    G27RR Hmmm...

    27
    Oct 11, 2011
    A Defender was my first 1911 and it's not a bad choice, provided you don't mind a bit of extra recoil and you can control it. Mine has not malfuctioned in the 1,300 or so rounds I have through it, and it has worked with Gold Dot, Hornady TAP and Winchester white box JHPs, as well as various FMJ ammo.

    I currently carry an STI Shadow because I like the stippled front strap, Heinie straight 8 recessed night sights, and the slightly softer recoil vs the Defender. It's also made locally to me. The STI Escort has much of the Shadow's features and is about the same price as the Defender.

    The Defender has a somewhat slippery front strap if you ditch the wraparound grips.

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  11. Scott

    Scott New Member

    14
    Nov 8, 2011
    The Colt Defender was my 2nd 1911 (Kimber Pro Carry being the 1st). The Defender was a good little gun. My only critique was I didn't care for the design of the beavertail grip, felt odd to me.

    For a time, I had a thing for "compact" guns. I soon learned that with a good holster and a better belt, I could conceal more "duty" size guns just fine. Since I shoot larger guns better (as I assume most do) I voted for the Smith. I am actually looking at this very gun as I am getting back into 1911's after a short departure.
     
  12. sjd78

    sjd78 Supporting Addict Supporting Addict

    191
    Sep 29, 2011
    I say get a full size 1911 for the range and keep the G36 and LC9 for carry. I love the 1911 platform but I carry a G36.
     
  13. shichidan

    shichidan Member

    93
    Aug 17, 2011
    My carry rotation is

    !. Colt 1991 compact 45ACP
    2. Bond SnakeSlayer IV. 410/45 colt and 357/38
    3. ruger LCP 380

    the Colt shoots the same as my full size and commander 1911s .

    it has had many rounds down it at the range and has been 100% reliable.

    Just love the feel of a Colt 1911 Compact


    the Bond goes in my briefcase

    the LCP goes in my inside brest pocket in my motorcycle jackets

    Alan
     
  14. Gress

    Gress Don't need no education Supporting Addict

    Nov 21, 2011
    I did not vote. I think 5" would be a better place to start with. As for S&W I am ok with their external extractor and 1911pc is IMO one nice gun. I shoot it occasionally and couple of samples I've seen have been very accurate.
     
  15. dreis454

    dreis454 New Member

    15
    Aug 22, 2011
    OK If I go full size & keep my G36 for carry,would a Ruger SR1911 or a Colt XSE series be better?
     
  16. joerockhead

    joerockhead "BOURBON" It's not just for Breakfast anymore ! Supporting Addict

    Oct 12, 2011
    Try to shoot them if you can before you buy one..... The best gun for you..... is the gun thats best for you....if you are comfortable
    with it ... you are accurate with it.... it fits well in your hand and feels right... go with your gut....
    It doesn't matter which one you buy first.............YOU ARE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER !!!!!!!
    That's why your on your way to becoming a 1911 ADDICT !!!! congradulations..................:grin:
    JMHO ...........
     
  17. dreis454

    dreis454 New Member

    15
    Aug 22, 2011
    Made my choice,i hope its the right one....

    Placed an order for a Colt XSE lightweight Commander in stainless steel.:biggrin1:
     
  18. Gress

    Gress Don't need no education Supporting Addict

    Nov 21, 2011
  19. Sir Guy

    Sir Guy Sharpening Ockham's Razor Supporting Addict

    Aug 20, 2011
    And so the addiction begins.

    Let us know when it comes in, man. :thumb:

    Andy
     
  20. dreis454

    dreis454 New Member

    15
    Aug 22, 2011
    ^Sure will, Its expected the 1st or 2nd week of Jan,2012......Kinda sucks to live within minutes of the Colt plant and still have to wait....
     

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