Colt Colt Series 70 vs. Series 80

Discussion in 'General 1911 talk' started by ditto1958, Feb 12, 2019.

  1. ditto1958

    ditto1958 Active Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    I found a really nice used Colt Government Series 80 in a store yesterday, and am tempted to buy it. Only thing is, I think I’d rather have a Mark IV Series 70.

    If you have both, which do you prefer, and why?
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  2. Mike Meints

    Mike Meints Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2017
    I have both . I generally prefer the series 70 even though my series 80 is a nicer gun , only because it's easier for me to disassemble and re-assemble . No difference in trigger .
    Just my .02

  3. WC145

    WC145 Every day is Saturday and every night's a party!

    Jan 1, 2013
    I have S70s, S80s, and S80s that have had the S80 parts removed, they're all great. I prefer the S70 and older rollmarks but whether one has the S80 safety or not doesn't matter for shooting.
  4. samuse

    samuse Well-Known Member

    Jul 29, 2013
    All things equal I like 70, but I've carried an 80 many a mile. Absolutely nothing wrong with one.
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  5. FullySupported

    FullySupported Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2019
    I have both series 70 and series 80. One can get good or bad examples of either. Although the people who hate on series 80 are NOT wrong and I would slightly prefer series 70, in general, I wouldn't pass on a good series 80, especially if the individual one has a nice-feeling trigger to you.

    In fact, at this very moment, I am headed to the range with a newish Series 80 Colt Special Combat Government. This mat be my favorite gun of all right now...
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  6. Greg45acp

    Greg45acp Double Secret Banned Supporting Addict

    Oct 31, 2016
    Internet wizdumb aside, and assuming both have had a trigger job (IMHO they all need a trigger job) the 80 trigger needs to travel backwards a tiny bit more to assure the blocking plunger is fully raised.

    If shortness of travel is critical to you, get the normal 1911. Otherwise, buy what you like.
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  7. Capthobo

    Capthobo NRA Endowment member Supporting Addict

    Nov 9, 2016
    When the SHTF you ain’t gonna notice any difference!
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  8. Fight islam Now

    Fight islam Now Active Member

    Mar 3, 2017
  9. Spokes

    Spokes Supporting Addict Supporting Addict

    Sep 18, 2011
    I have both. Both good..
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  10. xerts1191

    xerts1191 Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2017
  11. Yoemen66

    Yoemen66 Well-Known Member

    Aug 10, 2017
    There's no difference. If it looks like a good gun to ya, buy it. The only reason I might have ever preferred one over the other was when the 70 came with a nicer polish then the 1991. Other than that it doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
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  12. dakota1911

    dakota1911 Well-Known Member

    Feb 19, 2015
    I prefer not having any mechanical firing pin safety on a 1911. It is also worth remembering that the Series 80 safety, which is activated by the trigger, was first used by Colt about 1983 but has been used by SIG, Para, Remington, Taurus, and others.

    As close as I can come to an apples to apples comparison are two Colt Gold Cups which were made months apart in 2015. One, the Trophy, has the Series 80 mechanical firing pin safety while the GCNM MkIV Series 70 does not.


    Both these have very nice triggers and I can make the same size groups with both at up to 25 yards which is the furthest I have played with shooting one next to the other on the same day with the same ammo.
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  13. Yoemen66

    Yoemen66 Well-Known Member

    Aug 10, 2017
    The mechanical safety argument is a funny one to me. The odds of their being an issue with the mechanical safety or it actually impacting your shooting are about as high as the odds of the gun being dropped and accidentally discharging...which the safety would again, the series 80 safety matters just slightly less to me then the inclusion of mim parts........which is zero so.....
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  14. ditto1958

    ditto1958 Active Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Well, I done did it. After reading the feedback here, I decided to go back and see if it was still at the store. It was, and I hope to shoot it at the range tomorrow.
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2019
  15. Greg45acp

    Greg45acp Double Secret Banned Supporting Addict

    Oct 31, 2016

    Don’t force me to use this one....
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  16. Fred_G

    Fred_G Known Agitator

    Dec 29, 2015
    Congrats on the new gun! And yes, picts are needed! I did not care for the one series 80 I had, but it is not hard to 'convert' them to a series 70 if you want. If it was a good deal, I would have no problem buying a s80.
  17. ditto1958

    ditto1958 Active Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    I recently sold an older stainless Mark IV Series 80 that I had for a little bit that had a terrible trigger. I put in a Cylinder and Slide kit to try to smooth it up, but that didn’t help much. So I was a bit apprehensive about this Series 80. The trigger on this one is way better than the one on the gun I sold. Not as good as the one om my Ruger Target Model, but just as good as a the one my Series 70 Gold Cup had.
  18. ditto1958

    ditto1958 Active Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    52494D40-03FE-4DA9-A402-FE3E94D9CCB3.jpeg Not too exciting really. Just a pretty good deal on a plain jane Government Model.

    Oh, and there was no extra charge for the “idiot scratch” it came with. :)
  19. ditto1958

    ditto1958 Active Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Back from the range. I shot up a box of Federal Champion 230 grain fmj ammo. No stoppages of any kind. The only issue so far is that it was hitting about 8 inches right at 25 years and 16 inches right at 50 yards. Dang. I’m gonna bring my handloads next time and see where they go before I start moving the sight. Aside from that, I’m happy.
  20. Yoemen66

    Yoemen66 Well-Known Member

    Aug 10, 2017
    That sounds like you might be jerking the trigger to hard pulling the poa to the right.

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