Les Baer Commanche Parts

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  1. swampgas

    swampgas Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 10, 2019
    Looking to respring a SPR Commanche, anyone know what the standard ships with recoil spring weight is? And recoil spring plug, the parts list just has 2 listings for the plug and they are the exact same verbage/description. Any help appreciated. Thanks
     
  2. Jim w.

    Jim w. Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2016
    Google, man, google.
    Alchemy says "Les sends them out with a 21 lb."
    Or you could treat it like a Commander and use an 18.
    Be sure to check for the spring going "solid", a Commanche is not really a Commander.
    The plug is probably the same as a Commander.
     

  3. swampgas

    swampgas Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 10, 2019
    Baer doesn't list a commander plug. Just a "standard" plug,,,from the website "Baer 1911 Recoil Plug, Standard Style "
     
  4. swampgas

    swampgas Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 10, 2019
    Oh, and thanks for the info
     
  5. timw1

    timw1 I had lunch with Cheeto! Supporting Addict

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    Sep 2, 2016
    What spring to use then? Use a commander spring and trim it, or is there a specific spring? I'm asking because I just replaced a Commanche spring with a Commander spring and I think it was stacking. I say this because my bushing cracked. Any help/feedback would be appreciated.
     
  6. Jim w.

    Jim w. Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2016
    Where will you get a bushing, Baer? If so, get springs from him.
    If not, sure, clip a Commander spring to suit.
     
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  7. pistolwretch

    pistolwretch Dremel jockey Supporting Addict

    Aug 26, 2011
    Talk to Rob at Alchemy.
    Great guy.
    Best bet!
     
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  8. timw1

    timw1 I had lunch with Cheeto! Supporting Addict

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    Sep 2, 2016
    I think I fffed up with the Commander spring. I dropped the gun off at a local gunsmith to have a new bushing fitted, and just ordered new springs from Baer. I'm new to Baer, so live and learn I guess.
     
  9. swampgas

    swampgas Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 10, 2019
    Their for sale section is not intuitive, I bought a 4.25 18# spring for mine, then typed in the comments section that all parts were for a Commanche
     
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  10. notshawn54

    notshawn54 Well-Known Member

    Jan 9, 2016
    I can compare the plugs in my commanche and colt commander in the morning. I’m not home right now. Also a bit drunk too.
     
  11. swampgas

    swampgas Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 10, 2019
    The plugs are Commander plugs, the springs are a guess.
     
  12. notshawn54

    notshawn54 Well-Known Member

    Jan 9, 2016
    Ok now that I’m sober albeit with a small hangover, I went to check the plugs and now I can’t find the commander plug. Many moons ago I put in a FLGR. Yeah I know. So I measured the plug from my DW Guardian. Guardian plug is .953” from the shoulder to the base. The Commanche was 1.000”. Seeing as I just replaced the springs last week, I counted coils. New spring is a Wilson 20# commander and has 22 coils same as the old Bear spring. Also checked for stacking and all is fine. Rearward movement measures the same with or without spring.
     
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  13. swampgas

    swampgas Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 10, 2019
    Thanks, seems they would make purchasing parts easier..should have said ordering parts
     
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  14. notshawn54

    notshawn54 Well-Known Member

    Jan 9, 2016
    I think it’s been said before that Uncle Les likes to do things his way.
     
  15. swampgas

    swampgas Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 10, 2019
    And that is why I'll be sending the Commanche off to his competition for refinishing and other odds and ends.
     
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  16. notshawn54

    notshawn54 Well-Known Member

    Jan 9, 2016
    I get it. I may be one of the lucky ones. Mine runs and runs. Sitting at about 6500 rds now. Ran it 1400 rds once only lubing it. No malfunctions but what a mess to clean. Never do that again. But if it ever needs work it will go elsewhere too.
     
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  17. timw1

    timw1 I had lunch with Cheeto! Supporting Addict

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    Sep 2, 2016
    Can a Commanche be machined for better reliability? If so, does anyone know a smith who does this modification?
     
  18. Dangerous Brian

    Dangerous Brian Pigtails and butter please...

    Dec 9, 2013
    ^ Yes it can. John Harrison did one of mine.
     
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