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Commander with vertical cocking serrations?

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  1. Feb 10, 2019 #1
    JonFrank

    JonFrank Well-Known Member

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    All,

    This is a dull question, I know. But I’m looking for my next pistol and I’m having difficulties finding it without just getting it built.

    I am looking for a steel frame commander length pistol. Production or semi-custom. Price of $2,000 or less.

    The one aesthetic that I just have a difficulty not getting are vertical cocking serrations. Seems most semi-customs have angled.

    So I’d prefer vertical slide serrations, front strap treatment/checkering and blued or stainless. Prefer not having a coating.

    Seems I may have to buy an older Colt Commander and get work done to it.

    [​IMG]

    Or...

    Buy a Dan Wesson A2 commander and get it checkered and reblued. I have sent a message to Keith at DW to see if they would do some custom work to a new A2.

    [​IMG]

    Any other options come to mind?


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  3. Feb 10, 2019 #2
    Tactical Rico

    Tactical Rico Well-Known Member

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    Find yourself an older Colt Commander............that's what I did.
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  5. Feb 10, 2019 #3
    JonFrank

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    The colt Wiley Clapp checks almost all the boxes I want. But...

    Angled serrations.

    [​IMG]

    Can the serrations be recut to be a finer LPI?

    Then a used Les Baer could be possible. But it’s a chopped 5”, correct? So some have issues with function/slingshot. And although angled the finer serrations make it more appealing.

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  6. Feb 10, 2019 #4
    JonFrank

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    Great looking gun. Would you be willing to PM me what sort of cost you have in it and who did it?


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  7. Feb 10, 2019 #5
    JonFrank

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    Could also use a Fusion Freedom pistol as a base. I’m not sure how their slide to frame fit and barrel fit is.

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  8. Feb 10, 2019 #6
    limbkiller

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  9. Feb 10, 2019 #7
    Tactical Rico

    Tactical Rico Well-Known Member

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    JonFrank...PM sent. For others that may be interested, Don Williams of "The Action Works" did the slide cuts and Frame checkering. His website, http://www.theactionworks.com/, has all the info you need..........

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  10. Feb 10, 2019 #8
    CENTURIATOR

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    I've been told that if front serrations were a good thing on a 1911, God would have inspired Saint John Moses Browning to include them in his design. :) LOL

    I myself, like them.
     
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  11. Feb 10, 2019 #9
    JonFrank

    JonFrank Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. It’s an option. I alluded to it in the first post with the Colt pic. Still looking at plenty more to get my other wants.

    That’s what my 9mm is.
    [​IMG]

    Just wanting to take it a step further.

    I just kinda think I’d end up with a better fitting pistol if I started with an A2 and sent it out or bought a semi custom that fit my criteria.

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  12. Feb 10, 2019 #10
    Tactical Rico

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    JonFrank, If that's your pistol^^^^^^I'd go with it and just ad what you want, if anything. I like FCS as I'm a "press check" guy and I like checkered front straps for solid hold. That said.......I also like short triggers and flat MSH but not everyone else does. A "High Power" front cut works for some folks and others like front strap stippling........some like neither. Figure out what you like and go for it. Whatever works for you is good........JMHO.

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  13. Feb 10, 2019 #11
    JonFrank

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    Thanks. That is mine. 9mm though. I want another .45.

    I have pretty large paws so the long trigger and arched MSH seem to just fit me better.


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  14. Feb 10, 2019 #12
    Au Jus in Bello

    Au Jus in Bello Well-Known Member

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    Seems some confusion in a few replies: as I read the OP, he wants an all-steel, blued or stainless Commander-sized 1911 with traditional vertical rear serrations only, front strap checkering, $2K or less.

    The problem has been finding those rear vertical serrations...

    OP, I believe the solution is simple and you've already found it -- Keith will confirm: Get an A2 from DW's custom shop built as you like; one member did something similar with a Government A2 and the results were superb.
     
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  15. Feb 10, 2019 #13
    AJP

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    Another plus 1 for the Custom Shop DW A2. As much as I love custom Colt's, you will blow your budget just getting the Colt up to par with the DW, let alone making it better.

    Speaking of blowing your budget, have a look at Wilson's new Super Grade Commander Special!
     
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  16. Feb 10, 2019 #14
    JonFrank

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    Thanks for the replies @Au Jus in Bello and @AJP.

    I hope to hear from Keith soon.

    I guess vertical serrations are a thing of the past.


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  17. Feb 10, 2019 #15
    AJP

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    If anything I think they are making a bit of a come back. Between the A2, the Wilson I mentioned, and the Ed Brown/Brownells Retro, I can't remember a time we've had so many options. The more the merrier!
     
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  18. Feb 10, 2019 #16
    samuse

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    Guncrafter and Wilson will do 'em.
     
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  19. Feb 11, 2019 #17
    Au Jus in Bello

    Au Jus in Bello Well-Known Member

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    OP stipulates $2K or under.
     
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  20. Feb 11, 2019 #18
    dakota1911

    dakota1911 Well-Known Member

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    Depending on where you live you might find a pre 80 Series Colt Commander for not a lot of money (Down here in the $600-700 range). Below are a couple I found a few years ago. The one on top is from 1982 and the one on the bottom is from 1980 so they are not that collectible.

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  21. Feb 11, 2019 #19
    puddi_nugget

    puddi_nugget Well-Known Member

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    Wilson Combat offers vertical cocking serrations now. They call them "forward angle cocking serrations" HO-RFACS I believe.
     
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  22. Feb 11, 2019 #20
    JonFrank

    JonFrank Well-Known Member

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    Have had some good talks with Keith! Getting close to finalizing my list and ordering.

    So far.

    A2 Commander
    Checker the front strap
    Lightly round butt the arched MSH
    Flush and reverse crown barrel
    Brass front sight
    Plain black ledge rear sight
    Long trigger

    That put me right at my top price.

    Anything else I should add?

    Flush the slide stop?
    Further blending of the safeties?

    Keith made it sound like they only do DW parts. “Can change to any sights we offer”

    I’m getting really excited


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