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I recently purchased a NOS DW A2 Commander which was my first 1911. To make a long story short, I put a minor idiot scratch/scuff in the blue/black finish. I knew what "'not" to do, but I'll be damned if it didn't happen. I realize that over time all firearms will show wear and have character. However, when there's a specific scratch that implies one's an idiot, it's difficult to see character in that. So, I sold the DW for a loss and moved on.

Recently, I've been considering buying another 1911 and have been searching the classified ADs. No disrespect intended, but I've noticed there are a lot of idiots out there just like me ;). Though it doesn't make me feel any better, at least I know I'm not alone.

The slide stop on the DW seemed very difficult to snap into place and I was worried about breaking something.

Questions:

1.) Are all slide stops difficult to insert on a new 1911?
2.) Does it get easier after breaking in a 1911?
3.) Next time, should I firmly press on the slide stop until it snaps in place and not worry about breaking anything?

Thanks!
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You can do a search on the LogMan Mod.
Its a easy modification to the slide stop to help it go into place easier.

Here, its on TOOS
Idiot Scratch Proof | 1911Forum
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Haha, it's easy to do! Good on ya for taking your flogging and moving on. I've done plenty of stupid **** over the years myself.

To answer your questions:

1. No. I've had them basically drop right in on brand new, fairly high-end guns.

2. Maybe a little, as small bits of material are shed from the pin and link with usage.

3. Yes, but don't resort to more than thumb or finger pressure! It can also help to oil the pin lightly before inserting it.

Oftentimes, the barrel link isn't perfectly aligned with the hole, and no amount of pressing will fix that. Peek through and make sure you can see clean through the hole with no eclipsing before you try to insert the slide-stop.

Also, I've found a dab of oil in the spring, and pressing it several times with a plastic or nylon implement, to work the oil in prior to attempting insertion, goes a long way.

Lastly, the same plastic or nylon implement can be used to gently depress the spring as you push straight down (I lay the gun flat on a mat when I do this), just to get it started. Needless to say, the tool needs to be thin and rigid for this purpose. I have a set of plastic auto trim removal tools that are perfect for this task (and many others).
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You can do a search on the LogMan Mod.
Its a easy modification to the slide stop to help it go into place easier.

Here, its on TOOS
Idiot Scratch Proof | 1911Forum
Yep, this mod makes inserting the slide stop pretty easy. If you don't have any jewelers files, go buy a cheap set at Harbor Freight. They are wonderful to have around if you tinker on pistols. I just had mine out tonight working on my Bul 2011.


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I see the light and now I know! Thanks!
I recently purchased a NOS DW A2 Commander which was my first 1911. To make a long story short, I put a minor idiot scratch/scuff in the blue/black finish. I knew what "'not" to do, but I'll be damned if it didn't happen. I realize that over time all firearms will show wear and have character. However, when there's a specific scratch that implies one's an idiot, it's difficult to see character in that. So, I sold the DW for a loss and moved on.

Recently, I've been considering buying another 1911 and have been searching the classified ADs. No disrespect intended, but I've noticed there are a lot of idiots out there just like me ;). Though it doesn't make me feel any better, at least I know I'm not alone.

The slide stop on the DW seemed very difficult to snap into place and I was worried about breaking something.

Questions:

1.) Are all slide stops difficult to insert on a new 1911?
2.) Does it get easier after breaking in a 1911?
3.) Next time, should I firmly press on the slide stop until it snaps in place and not worry about breaking anything?

Thanks!
The first time I scratched a gun because the fit was too tight, was the reason I started polshing these guns up. Every 1911 I have ever bought AFTER the one I scratched up taking apart--I take them apart and polish the **** out of them and especially work over the slide stops until they are easy to insert and take out--I could care less what others say about this--most 1911's are built way too tight--what good is a gun that you can't disassemble and reassemble it in the field easily if you need to?? Some people say "well you aren't using the right tools"--really? That's BS! My guns are easy to tear down and put together because I make them fit and work easily. I like my 1911's loose and they operate! BTW, guns that are built too tight, are the guns that are the first ones to jam.
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Whelp, beat this . . . . .

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I have also found that if I apply pressure not only in, but also slightly upwards, that they go in easier. I would not have sold the gun over it. Better to work with it for a while and once you have it down pat, refinish the gun. My cousin just bought his first 1911, and has no experience with them. It took a lot of patience to teach him to field strip a Glock. The chance of his gun getting scratched the first time out is <\=100%
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I recently purchased a NOS DW A2 Commander which was my first 1911. To make a long story short, I put a minor idiot scratch/scuff in the blue/black finish. I knew what "'not" to do, but I'll be damned if it didn't happen. I realize that over time all firearms will show wear and have character. However, when there's a specific scratch that implies one's an idiot, it's difficult to see character in that. So, I sold the DW for a loss and moved on.

If it makes you feel better I recently purchased a Colt Gold Cup Trophy, brand new in the box, and it had a scratch from the factory!

Recently, I've been considering buying another 1911 and have been searching the classified ADs. No disrespect intended, but I've noticed there are a lot of idiots out there just like me ;). Though it doesn't make me feel any better, at least I know I'm not alone.

The slide stop on the DW seemed very difficult to snap into place and I was worried about breaking something.

Questions:

1.) Are all slide stops difficult to insert on a new 1911?
2.) Does it get easier after breaking in a 1911?
3.) Next time, should I firmly press on the slide stop until it snaps in place and not worry about breaking anything?

Thanks!
SS357, if you place your right thumb just below (meaning closer to the trigger, not under the slide stop) and using your left thumb push inwards and ever slightly upwards it will snap in place. Not until 2016 that I saw my 1st gun forum that I heard/seen an idiot scratch and I’ve had my 1911 Colt since the early 90’s.

Sorrry you felt that bad that you needed to sell. Just remember, even a new truck/car will get its first scratch/dent!

-Snuff 🍺
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A lot of good tips here and some Grace …
I scratched my first 1911too , it was a compact RIA .I was so mad at myself, But after talking it apart over and over I figured out how to do it right ! There’s a little trick to it but not one you can’t master unless of course your an idiot.🤣
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I put the idiot scratch on my SR1911. It's my gun..always going to be my gun, and has alot more dings and scratches now from being my favorite trail / truck gun. That gun saved my others from the scratch. Some good advice here..i use an old credit card that i cut to the right shape to push the plunger back and the ST drops right in... Don't beat urself up over it.. I wouldn't have sold the DW because of it. If u liked the gun ..i would have run that dirty b^%#h hard..and loved every round...:)
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:oops:….how in the hell…..

Intoxicated 1911 disassembly Tip of the Day!

#1 - Don't . . . . .
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I recently purchased a NOS DW A2 Commander which was my first 1911. To make a long story short, I put a minor idiot scratch/scuff in the blue/black finish. I knew what "'not" to do, but I'll be damned if it didn't happen. I realize that over time all firearms will show wear and have character. However, when there's a specific scratch that implies one's an idiot, it's difficult to see character in that. So, I sold the DW for a loss and moved on.

Recently, I've been considering buying another 1911 and have been searching the classified ADs. No disrespect intended, but I've noticed there are a lot of idiots out there just like me ;). Though it doesn't make me feel any better, at least I know I'm not alone.

The slide stop on the DW seemed very difficult to snap into place and I was worried about breaking something.

Questions:

1.) Are all slide stops difficult to insert on a new 1911?
2.) Does it get easier after breaking in a 1911?
3.) Next time, should I firmly press on the slide stop until it snaps in place and not worry about breaking anything?

Thanks!
I wouldn’t worry about the idiot scratch on the DW,, every IPSC 1911 in our shooting club had an idiot scratch.. no biggie.. on your next 1911’s.. just be a little more careful that’s all.. this site Exploits the idiot scratch like a big zit on the nose… never heard of it till I joined here… I have 12 1911’s… 4 have idiot scratches… 8 do not.. experience will Eliminate the Infamous idiot scratch. 🇺🇸👍
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Selling a gun over a small scratch seems excessive to me. That money you lost would have been better spent on 3-4 therapy sessions… or however long a case of ammo will last you
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I appreciate all the stories and great tips! I never knew this had been a topic of discussion dating back to "log man" in 2008. Oh well, live and learn. I'll miss the DW A2 since it was my first, but I've always been one that enjoys the chase more than the catch. So, it's time to start chasing again!
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Selling a gun over a small scratch seems excessive to me. That money you lost would have been better spent on 3-4 therapy sessions… or however long a case of ammo will last you
This was my therapy session, and it was free! ;)
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I've got over 10k rounds in my DW A2. I love it and no one would ever pay me what it's worth to me. I am guilty of the scratch, but not in a very long time.

I hope you dive back in and I hope you replace your A2. I carried mine for a couple of years and it is still my back up.
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. I love it and no one would ever pay me what it's worth to me
:love:.. I'm sure all us Addicts have a few like that...
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