Creating a Colt “Sleeper”

Discussion in 'General 1911 talk' started by retrieverman, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. retrieverman

    retrieverman Well-Known Member

    May 16, 2013
    After putting a few hundred rounds through my new to me/old Colt, I think I’m ready to have a kind of “sleeper” 1911 created, but I still haven’t decided exactly what to do and would appreciate imput.
    This old Colt is pretty nice for its age (appears to be original finish), so I don’t really want to alter the outward appearance but would like to “slick up” the internals and lighten the trigger a bit.
    The gun functions perfect, but I still changed out all the springs and mainspring housing from arched to flat. The sight had already been changed at some point.

    What do the experts say about this idea?
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  2. Integrity Arms

    Integrity Arms 1911 Pistol Smith

    Mar 20, 2017
    Accuracy and reliability job, fit and tune new extractor and ejector, and one for spare. Custom fit barrel bushing, and oversize fps. Possibly a disco cut.. new ignition set. with TR trigger job.. Should fit your definition of a sleeper pretty well.
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  3. FWoo45

    FWoo45 Well-Known Member

    Jan 13, 2017
    No expert but I say get a hold of @Joe C, @Jason Burton, @lsbbigdog. Any of these guys can take it to the next level. Or the top level. The MSH appears to be flat from your pic. Sweet old Colt
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  4. FWoo45

    FWoo45 Well-Known Member

    Jan 13, 2017
    Those guys won't make it a sleeper though. @Steve Owens damn good guy turning out some damn nice work. Just not yet as established. Not paying for the name if you will.
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  5. retrieverman

    retrieverman Well-Known Member

    May 16, 2013
    Yes, I did change the MSH from arched to flat.

    I greatly appreciate the input.
  6. Integrity Arms

    Integrity Arms 1911 Pistol Smith

    Mar 20, 2017
    I did fail to mention a kart barrel, of course that is an option depending on budget...
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  7. EvolutionArmory

    EvolutionArmory Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011

    The basics. Modern sights, thicker slide stops to enhance lock up, barrel bushing work and new Harrison TR ignition kits. These also got undercut trigger guards and front serrations, Harrison retro thumb safeties, carry bevels and lowered and flared ports.
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2018
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  8. Au Jus in Bello

    Au Jus in Bello Well-Known Member

    May 19, 2017
    Why not?
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  9. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 19, 2017
    Do you like the feel with the FMSH & short trigger? I change the
    arched MSH & trigger to the FMSH & long trigger this fits me better.
    To each their own, just curious.
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  10. retrieverman

    retrieverman Well-Known Member

    May 16, 2013
    The flat mainspring housing and short trigger fit me well. I put another hundred plus rounds through the gun this afternoon, and though I like it as is, I’m getting pretty excited to see what it can become.:thumbs:
  11. AJP

    AJP Well-Known Member

    Jun 15, 2017
    Oh my, those are the business! I am going need a series 70 done up like that in the not too distant future.
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  12. lsbbigdog

    lsbbigdog Smiffin' ain't easy

    Aug 21, 2011
  13. july19

    july19 Womb? Weary? He rests. He has travelled. Supporting Addict

    Sep 16, 2013
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  14. Integrity Arms

    Integrity Arms 1911 Pistol Smith

    Mar 20, 2017
    No, I'd say that's more of a I'll bust a cap in your @$$ kinda gun lol ;) Great work for sure, love the conceal beavertail and retro hammer together though. I don't know though a lot of retro there for sure.
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  15. theJanitor

    theJanitor Well-Known Member

    Nov 14, 2014

    Vickers built colt S.80. this gun was a true sleeper. Welded up barrel, welded thumb safety for just a little more surface area (i think Ken Hackathorn got a couple of these as well), great trigger, perfect dehorning, lightly modified ejection port, fitted, MSH, etc.

    It was a true sleeper. So much so, that when it hit my FFL, they thought I got taken for a ride. Then they took it out to the lanes and shot it and were astouned by the smooth recoil and crazy accuracy. They still talk about this gun. HAHA!!

    Larry, later went ahead and gave it the full treatment, with Pete Single checkering, beavertail, Larry's own ignition kit, etc.
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  16. simonp

    simonp Well-Known Member

    May 27, 2016
    Love that!

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  17. IANative

    IANative Well-Known Member

    Feb 10, 2013
    I think those are gorgeous.
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  18. retrieverman

    retrieverman Well-Known Member

    May 16, 2013
    I’d like to thank those who replied and let y’all know that I’m sending my old Colt to Steve Owens to do the work. I’ve owned some pretty nice guns over the years, but I’ve never had one professionally tricked out before and am excited to see how it turns out.:thumbs:
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  19. ORShooter

    ORShooter Just outsided the realm of Crazy!

    Nov 28, 2018
    Can hardly wait to see the end result! Good luck and congrats. TW
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  20. BennyAdeline

    BennyAdeline Official Hi-Point Brand Representative

    Nov 26, 2018
    Recently picked up a series 80 govt and am interested in the sleeper route. Cosmetic work is tempting, and I talked to Steve about some, but this thread makes me want to keep the original looks and have it be a beast under the hood.
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