CULTURE....The Right In Ancient Times

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  1. Mike Meints

    Mike Meints Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2017
    As we look back at to the origins of the 2nd Amendment dating back to ancient times, it is important to keep the founding fathers in mind.

    After all they are the Framers & Ratifiers of the Constitution and Bill Of Rights. Even though all of them were educated in the classical European tradition.

    "A right to keep and bear arms" derive all the way back to Greece, Rome and ancient China.

    Here is a very rare unearthed expression from ancient China:

    "Your subject has heard that when the ancients made the five kind of weapons, it was not for the purpose of killing each other, but to prevent tyranny and to punish evil."

    (Joyce Lee Malcolm, To keep and Bear Arms: The Origins of an Anglo-American Right 176-7, 1994)

    Now moving to ancient Greece. (This is something we can relate to today), it's when Aristotle criticized the restriction of arms that was being advocated by Hippodamos:

    "Hippodamos planned a city with a population of ten thousand, divided into three parts, one of skilled workers, one of agriculturists, and a third to bear arms and secure defense. But the legal restriction of arms bearing to a given class would mean that the farmers have no arms; this make them virtually the servants of those who do possess arms. In these circumstances, the equal sharing of offices and honours becomes an impossibility."

    (Joyce Lee Malcolm, To keep and Bear Arms: The Origins of an Anglo-American Right 176-7, 1994)

    Moving forward we can even go to 106 B.C. with Marcus Tullius Cicero who served in the last years of the Roman Republic.

    "There exists a law, not written down anywhere, but inborn in our hearts.... I refer to the law which lays it down that, if our lives are endangered by plots or violence or armed robbers or enemies, any and every method of protecting ourselves is morally right. When weapons reduce them to silence, the laws no longer expect one to await their pronouncements.

    For people who decide to wait for these will have to wait for justice, too - and meanwhile they must suffer injustice first."

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