Current State of the Mid-Tier 9mm Rail Gun

Discussion in 'General 1911 talk' started by brotherrat, May 5, 2019.

  1. brotherrat

    brotherrat Member

    Apr 13, 2019
    I'm in the market for a 9mm 1911 with a rail.
    Looking for a headspace check here to see if I've overlooked anything, but I think I have a decent read of the current market in 2019. So, given a budget of $1500+/- I think there are three candidates that bear attention:

    Dan Wesson Specialist. They seem to be the go-to choice for anyone that wants to buy a gun and just run it. Any issues to be aware of? Will they take longer 147 loads, or do they need reamed? Good frames?

    Colt Combat Unit 9mm. I wanted one bad, until I happened across multiple reviews detailing issues with function and small parts fitment, and subsequent slow/questionable customer service. Apparently the barrels and their fit are excellent, as is the ionbond finish, and the frame and slide are well executed. I also like having front cocking serrations.

    Springfield Armory Operator(s). I understand the small parts and their fitment to be hit or miss. A common comment is that they have great customer service, but you stand decent odds of having to use it. Also, I don't care for supporting Illinois politics, however you feel about that.

    That's what I have so far. Did I miss anyone's 9mm 1911 offering in that price ballpark? Bear in mind, I have no experience with any of the above; this is just what I've been able to surmise by perusing the forums and youtubes. If I'm off base, please square me away. Can't wait to get y'all's thoughts.
  2. Maxfield911

    Maxfield911 Well-Known Member

    Mar 14, 2015
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  3. BR549er

    BR549er Well-Known Member

    Jul 6, 2018
    I have the Colt. Had to tension the extractor. Since then, sewing machine. Everyone in my circle loves to shoot it. Soft shooting, hits where you point it.

    Series 80 trigger.

    The Dan Wesson, all things being equal, is arguably the better choice on paper.

    I really dig the Ionbond and the Colt frame with high cut trigger guard fits me better than the DW Remsport frame.

    The usual Addict answer is buy both on the Classifieds. Or buy the DW and have FCS added and have it Ionbonded.
    I can't speak to the Springer, never owned one never will.
    Not much help. :)
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  4. JohnnyEgo

    JohnnyEgo Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2017
    Mine was Colt Competition, not a Rail Gun. But it came factory pre-scratched (happens) and snapped off it's own ejector on the second magazine I fired through it. I sent it off to Nighthawk, who made a silk purse out of a sow's ear. But I'd look at Dan Wesson before I looked at Colt again for a 9mm.


    First range trip unpleasantness:

    After Nighthawk:
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  5. brotherrat

    brotherrat Member

    Apr 13, 2019
    I appreciate the replies so far guys. Exactly what I'm looking for!
  6. simonp

    simonp Well-Known Member

    May 27, 2016

    Thats a beauty! If I could find a 9mm Colt in CA Id build something like that
  7. fallenangelhim

    fallenangelhim chicken wings

    Jan 18, 2018
    I got a DW Specialist Commander in 45 and have a DW Vigil Commander in 9mm on layaway. I love DW guns. I really wanted a Colt 9mm Commander but for same price I get way better product in my opinion.
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  8. Greg3458

    Greg3458 Active Member

    Oct 31, 2018
    STI Staccato C

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  9. azguy1911

    azguy1911 I'm done buying guns, I'm just a bystander now

    Oct 22, 2015
    Wait, save, sell sh*t you never use and buy a pre-loved Wilson in the $2,500 range, it's a lifetime purchase
    Last edited: May 6, 2019
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  10. Dwe

    Dwe I'm a terminal 1911 Addict!

    Sep 4, 2011
    I guess any of the guns on your list
    would be good choices, however
    I have 6 Dan Wesson’s in 9mm,
    all of which ran perfectly out of the box. None are a specialist but that is not my point. Dan Wesson has figured out the 9mm 1911 and they are flat out the best money spent in a production gun in your stated range IMHO. And the specialist is a top value of Dan Wesson’s currently available Guns still in production.

    Good luck in your search.
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  11. BR549er

    BR549er Well-Known Member

    Jul 6, 2018
    "Dan Wesson has figured out the 9mm 1911 and they are flat out the best money spent in a production gun in your stated range IMHO."

    Logic. Well said sir.
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  12. Babboonbobo

    Babboonbobo Avatar is back to my favorite things!

    Nov 18, 2014
    I had a commander size Specialist in 9mm I recently sold, very nice firearm and would be my choice again if it fit in with my goals to have a railed 9mm but it no longer did so....
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  13. Greg3458

    Greg3458 Active Member

    Oct 31, 2018
    I total agree with this assessment of DW. If production that’s the way to go.

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  14. Pappabear

    Pappabear Active Member

    Feb 24, 2018
    In the SA group, look for a Lipsey edition Operator. Very nice gun with some parts upgraded with tool steel. The range officers are good for the money, but in your price range you can do much better with DW or that Lipsey gun. I own a Valor which is sweet, but no rail.

  15. brotherrat

    brotherrat Member

    Apr 13, 2019
  16. BR549er

    BR549er Well-Known Member

    Jul 6, 2018
    A resounding "Yes!"

    Nice score.
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  17. Old Sea Dragon

    Old Sea Dragon Well-Known Member

    Feb 10, 2018
  18. Cop_Out

    Cop_Out Pearl Pimp Supporting Addict

    Feb 3, 2017
    Um, yes. You did alright. I don't think anyone here will say you didn'
  19. 1911 crazed

    1911 crazed Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2019
    Congratulations on a great buy.

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