Dan wesson commander vigil, pointman or gaurdian?

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  1. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Dec 23, 2018
    I was wondering which one you guys thought was more worth the money? I wont be carrying it daily. Also looking at 38 super over 9mm but not 100% necessary
     
  2. Dwe

    Dwe I'm a terminal 1911 Addict!

    Sep 4, 2011
    If you want a 38 superb your into a Guardian or a PM38. The Vigil is basically a Guardian without a Bobtail.
    A great gun however it is only made in 9mm and 45. if you want a CCO you should look into upgrading into a
    Valkyrie, however they only come in 9mm and 45 as well.
     
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  3. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Dec 23, 2018
    But the vigil has rounded butt and I'm not sure the difference
     
  4. ORShooter

    ORShooter Just outsided the realm of Crazy!

    Nov 28, 2018
    Yes!

    Sorry, I'm no help!:grin:
     
  5. stlgecko

    stlgecko Gecko Lives Matter

    May 24, 2014
    Sounds like you want a guardian .38 super.
     
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  6. Wheels No More

    Wheels No More Long gone

    May 12, 2015
    I'll show my vote and in case this pictures not worth 1000 words I'll say guardian 38 super....
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  7. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    I'm just not sure 38 super is worth paying more for cause there is little difference between vigil and guardian. Also why guardian and not point man carry?
     
  8. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Nice aftermarket grips
     
  9. Dwe

    Dwe I'm a terminal 1911 Addict!

    Sep 4, 2011
    The Vigil has the same butt as the Valkyrie.
    View attachment 192387
    The Guardian has the Ed Brown Bobtail just like the VBob.
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    The Guardian in 38 Super is my choice as EDC as the gun all but disappeares with the Bobtail. 7BB89583-1AF1-41DF-ADEE-F940760C2D52.jpeg
     
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  10. gun_fan111

    gun_fan111 Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2014
    Guardian is the only gun on your list with full length grip - probably why most people would pick that.

    In 9mm, Valkyrie cannot be beat for a good deal right now in either the Commander or CCO version.

    YMMV
     
  11. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Is there a big difference between the valkyrie and guardian?
     
  12. gun_fan111

    gun_fan111 Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2014
    Different butt
    Different rear sight
    Valkyrie comes with thin grips, Guardian with regular thickness

    Anything else is cosmetic
     
  13. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Grips to me are grips cause there as easy and plentiful to replace as shoes to a man and makeup to a women
     
  14. 41 Charlie

    41 Charlie Get off my lawn...

    Feb 4, 2014
    The Guardian chambered in 38 Super is an exceptional LW Commander. I also have a full size Vigil, also an alloy frame. My latest itch is either the Valkyrie CCO in 9mm or the PMC 38 Super CCO. The PMC is stainless steel, approximately 36 oz empty. Decisions- decisions, or perhaps get both. Once an Addict, always an Addict... :)

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  15. stlgecko

    stlgecko Gecko Lives Matter

    May 24, 2014
    Maybe so, but to change from slim to regular or vice versa you need to replace the grip bushings. Not a huge ordeal if you know what you are doing.
     
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  16. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Dec 23, 2018
    Also I'll probably eventually change sights to straight eights
     
  17. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Dec 23, 2018
    Also I'll probably eventually change sights to straight eights
     
  18. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Didnt mean to double post reply still new here
     
  19. Dwe

    Dwe I'm a terminal 1911 Addict!

    Sep 4, 2011
    Dan Wesson also made the Valkyries in a Commander size in 45 and 9mm. These had full length frames and when discounted they represented the best value of all Dan Wesson’s IMHO. They have been discontinued and are becoming hard to find.
     
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  20. TheCollector

    TheCollector Well-Known Member

    Aug 25, 2018
    This has my vote. I shot mine for the first time last week... was impressed that it was better than I anticipated.
     
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