Dan wesson vigil

Discussion in '1911 Gunsmithing' started by Jdb5324, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Dec 23, 2018
    What do you all think about me using a Dan wesson vigil as my starting point for a build? Will 110% be getting barrel and slide ported along with straight eight sights..maybe some different "checkering" like chain link and some top rib work.along with typical functionality and accuracy work
     
  2. WWB

    WWB Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator Supporting Addict

    Apr 11, 2015
    The slide is Duty treatment the frame is anodized aluminum so no not a good idea.
     

  3. Whiten

    Whiten Well-Known Member

    Jun 9, 2017
    Dan Wesson A2 would be a great gun to start with.

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  4. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Dec 23, 2018
    What makes that bad to work with? I can get refinished no problem.. also I belive the a2 ia actually more expensive
     
  5. Wheels No More

    Wheels No More Long gone

    May 12, 2015
    That duty treatment is hard as nails.
     
  6. Greg45acp

    Greg45acp Double Secret Banned Supporting Addict

    Oct 31, 2016
    Why on earth do you want it ported? That's another bad idea.
     
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  7. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Dec 23, 2018
    What's bad about it?
     
  8. Whiten

    Whiten Well-Known Member

    Jun 9, 2017
  9. Integrity Arms

    Integrity Arms 1911 Pistol Smith

    Mar 20, 2017
    You really shouldn't necessarily use an alloy frame for a build either, as that really limits your possibilities for refinishing of that portion of the gun as well. You would be much better off with a all carbon steel or all SS gun to start off a build. Duty treat is a SOB to machine and most Smiths (from what I hear ) don't want to fool with it. It ruins cutters, and makes it hard to get a decent finish with the cutter. I bought a FS A2 slightly used for $900 and Bought an Unfired A2 Commander here on the Forum for $800
     
  10. Greg45acp

    Greg45acp Double Secret Banned Supporting Addict

    Oct 31, 2016
    Steve needs to look at his disconnector... going full auto on us :D
     
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  11. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Dec 23, 2018
  12. WWB

    WWB Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator Supporting Addict

    Apr 11, 2015
    As said above the duty treatment will make it very hard to find anyone to work on it. The frame will have very limited refinish options also these are the reasons it’s not a good base gun IMO.
     
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  13. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Dec 23, 2018
    What's a good base gun then people
     
  14. WWB

    WWB Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator Supporting Addict

    Apr 11, 2015
    Do you need a lightweight frame? 45? Commander full size CCO?
     
  15. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Dec 23, 2018
    9mm commander or 5in
     
  16. WWB

    WWB Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator Supporting Addict

    Apr 11, 2015
    Valor in stainless or a bare Frame and slide full build IMO.
     
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  17. WWB

    WWB Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator Supporting Addict

    Apr 11, 2015
    You may want to ask DW to build you a gun to your specs. In the end may save you some money.
     
  18. WC145

    WC145 Every day is Saturday and every night's a party!

    Jan 1, 2013
    I don't see any reason not to use a Vigil for a build if that's what you want but, to me, it doesn't make sense to ruin the perfectly good existing checkering. In fact, I don't see anything on that frame I'd mess with. Certainly you could make a case for different controls or a different trigger but it's already got quality internal components so there really isn't any need to replace them, same with the barrel. Swapping sights is no big deal. Porting is totally unnecessary with a 9mm 1911, even a lightweight, there just isn't enough recoil to bother trying to tame it.

    Honestly, if you want to build something you might consider a "blanker" canvas, one that isn't already checkered, etc, so you can have whatever you want done to it. I used a Wiley Clapp lightweight Commander for a build but kept the factory checkering, there was no reason to mess with it.
     
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  19. WWB

    WWB Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator Supporting Addict

    Apr 11, 2015
    Porting a 9mm the juice isn’t worth the squeeze IMO. A 9mm 1911 has very little recoil to begin with the benefits are very limited IMO. If you can just change the sights ect the small parts and not machine the slide or frame I think the Vigil would be a fine gun.
     
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  20. Jdb5324

    Jdb5324 Active Member

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    Dec 23, 2018
    In porting more for looks then anything..its personal preference
     

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