I've never held one. The problem around my AO is no one has any of the higher end stuff to play with, I generally have to buy something if I want to try it out then take it in the @ss when I hate it and get rid of it. Some of the guns I've bought and hated. Wilson 1911's do nothing for me. Wilson EDC x9 (I actually hate this gun) Glock 19 M&P's Guns I love and have kept Glock 19, I know it's in both groups Les Baer 1911's CZ Shadow CZ Compact Para ordnance P14 ( Miss that one ) Actually looking at my list it appears I like fat grips so a 2011 is probably in my future. I've recently started shooting with a RMR on my CZ shadow so the 2011 will need that mounting option on it. What's a good base 4" 9mm 2011 with a RMR cut slide. Better to buy used or new? Looking at pictures online, I dislike the magwells and the mags sticking out on the bottom of the frame, what are the flush options?