Doing the Finish (blueing, CCH etc.) of the frame & slide on a self build.

Discussion in '1911 Gunsmithing' started by TheCollector, Dec 9, 2018.

  1. TheCollector

    TheCollector Well-Known Member

    Aug 25, 2018
    I'm contemplating doing my own self build (as many others here have done) I have a pretty simple question about doing the finish on it.
    Is it best to do all parts fitting to the frame & slide assemblies and then strip those two items completely down when sending out for the chosen finish? ie: sights, plunger tube, ejector.

    Any input, advice &/or suggestions are welcomed.
     
  2. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Consider my signature line before replying . . . .

    Dec 4, 2014

  3. 1911mechanik

    1911mechanik Christ is my front sight.

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    Apr 29, 2016
    Ok, I'm a home builder myself and have built 7 so far. So I am no pro and don't present myself as such. However, it has been my experience to get the gun as you want it functionally then proceed to sanding, polishing or blasting then bluing the frame, slide and parts. If nothing else just handling the gun while working on it often creates small issues that need to be addressed in finish prep. Also if you fit a new grip safety, checker the frame, etc that will require work to cleanup and get ready for final finish. Hope this helps. Perhaps one of the pros will come along and clear it all up. Good luck!
     
  4. gaijin

    gaijin Well-Known Member

    May 18, 2015
    Prep, fit and complete the build, then finish.
     
  5. lsbbigdog

    lsbbigdog Smiffin' ain't easy Sponsor

    Aug 21, 2011
    The finish should be the last step.
     
  6. Colorado Sonny

    Colorado Sonny Deo Volente Supporting Addict

    Sep 25, 2015
    If you want CCH, high polish blue and fire blued screws go with Bobby Tyler at Tyler Gun Works. Bobby can do your CCH at lower temperatures.

    https://tylergunworks.com/

    Please give us a bunch of before, during and after pictures! :grin::grin::grin:

    Good luck with your build!
     
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  7. Integrity Arms

    Integrity Arms 1911 Pistol Smith

    Mar 20, 2017
    As said above definitely fit/blend all parts first. Certain finishes can add dimensional to the parts, but not the case with bluing.
     
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  8. TheCollector

    TheCollector Well-Known Member

    Aug 25, 2018
    Am I safe to assume that there will be extremely little, if any dimensional growth with a CCH treatment?
     
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  9. Integrity Arms

    Integrity Arms 1911 Pistol Smith

    Mar 20, 2017
    Correct, if I understand the process correctly CCH is a bit different process then straight bluing, but yields like results... Finishes to be aware of are sprayed or dipped finishes in which the finish is applied over the metal which can add dimensionally to a slide stop pin, thumb safety and various other parts...
     
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  10. Joe C

    Joe C Custom Pistolsmith Sponsor

    Sep 11, 2011
    Build the gun complete. Shoot 500 rounds through it. Take it apart. Prep for finish. Apply desired finish. Reassemble and shoot 500 rounds.
     
  11. gaijin

    gaijin Well-Known Member

    May 18, 2015
    ^^This.
    You'll discover if any "tweaking" is required before you have the pistol finished.
     
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  12. EvolutionArmory

    EvolutionArmory Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    This. ^^ Build the gun, shoot the gun, tweak the gun, shoot the gun.

    Don’t put a finish on a gun that isn’t finished. :)
     
  13. TheCollector

    TheCollector Well-Known Member

    Aug 25, 2018
    I think this idea of a self build is going to come with a double edged sword. (upcoming pun will be intended) The wife is all for me spending the time & dollars to elevate my knowledge and use my handcrafting skills. So... while the funds for the project are free to flow. (within reason) The first side of the very sharp sword is I will probably ruin some $$s worth of parts through "first time mistakes."
    The other edge of the sword is much more worn and/or jagged, but even more threatening to me. It is the side of the sword she has determined would be used to "cut off" (pun, for those who missed it) all funds for gun purchases until this project is complete...
    Her way of insuring another project doesn't start and then die on the vine.
    So PLEASE don't any of you try to temp me with a gun for sale that I can't live without.
     
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  14. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Consider my signature line before replying . . . .

    Dec 4, 2014

    Unless it's a "parts gun?"

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  15. TheCollector

    TheCollector Well-Known Member

    Aug 25, 2018
    He has tried using that line on me Mr. Zoid!!! and I'll have no more of it. Beware of me Mr. Zoid, be very aware.... as I know where you live! GoG bitch.jpg
     
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  16. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Consider my signature line before replying . . . .

    Dec 4, 2014
    Then you will have to resort to the ole "carnal knowledge" trick (for research purposes only, of course . . . . . )
     
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  17. Joe C

    Joe C Custom Pistolsmith Sponsor

    Sep 11, 2011
    If you want to avoid a variety of mistakes I would recommend you check out www.1911university.com. I just finished teaching a class in Florida on Saturday and we'll have the 2019 schedule announced in a few days on the website.
     
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