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This has bothered me for a while. Living in a Northern state, shooting is a near impossibility in the winter months. Dry fire is the go to operation during this time.
When I see instructional videos of some of the popular instructors/shooters, I pretty much see them all rack the slide to cock the hammer when making a point on shooting, grip, etc.
Is simply cocking the hammer when dry firing wrong? That is the way I dry fire, and have not noticed any damage or degradation of parts that I can see. Would like to see what you all have to say on the subject.
 

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I personally don't think it's wrong, but that's just me. I also use a mag or two with some snap caps to practice mag changes as I don't like to cycle the pistol on a empty chamber/mag. But again that's just me and I do what I want. ;)
 

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Personally, I didn't see anything wrong with simply cocking the hammer. I do all of the above mentioned drills in dry fire, and use dummy rounds for mag swaps.
Seeing the experts always rack the slide made me question whether I was doing it correctly.
Asking dumb questions clears things up sometimes!
 

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The key question here is to ask:

Are the people you're watching have a M/GM title in any of the shooting sports? If so, those guys don't do anything outside of being proficient in their training.
 

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I run the slide just to get more weapon manipulations.

Here is some good information also.
 

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I think the guys on TV are re enforcing muscle memory , and when getting ready to shoot don't have a round in the chamber .
 

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Would you elaborate on that please?
You should not release the slide from its locked back position (ie; pull back and let go or release it with the slide stop) without a round in the magazine (or at least a dummy round) because it causes unnecessary stress on the slide and frame. The problem is that without a round in the mag, the recoil spring has nothing to work against except the mass of the slide. Normally, it would use part of its strength to strip a round from the mag and the slide forward travel speed would be significantly reduced.
 

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You should not release the slide from its locked back position (ie; pull back and let go or release it with the slide stop) without a round in the magazine (or at least a dummy round) because it causes unnecessary stress on the slide and frame. The problem is that without a round in the mag, the recoil spring has nothing to work against except the mass of the slide. Normally, it would use part of its strength to strip a round from the mag and the slide forward travel speed would be significantly reduced.
To my understanding doing so without a dummy round also makes the hammer and sear hit/slightly chatter (if that is the right word) together in a way that eventually could make your trigger job less crisp, due to the uninhibited slide and frame mass and vibration you are referencing.


That being said we have to remember these guns are tools and that as long as we take care of them the average owner will never dry fire or live fire their gun enough to wear the gun out anyway. As long as you don't care that you are inducing wear on your gun in the same way you don't about about educing stress on your gun when you are live firing it, then I would say you should dry fire it to your hearts content. Especially if you can't actually shoot due to weather or any other reason, and want to stay as fresh as possible without live fire practice.
 

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Ah guys, the only thing stopping the slide and barrel assy from flying off the front of the frame when being forced forward by the recoil spring is the barrel hooks hitting the slide stop. Releasing the slide stop on a empty mag/chamber has the lower hooks slam full speed into the slide stop pin. IMO not good. YMMV.
 
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Just about every manufacturer warns against doing it.
 

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I tend to rack the slide back by hand with my trigger depressed and then guide it forward manually as well. This technique helps me judge the "reset" distance on my triggers. That cannot be analyzed by thumbing the trigger into the full-cocked position.

Just my process.
 
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You should not release the slide from its locked back position (ie; pull back and let go or release it with the slide stop) without a round in the magazine (or at least a dummy round) because it causes unnecessary stress on the slide and frame. The problem is that without a round in the mag, the recoil spring has nothing to work against except the mass of the slide. Normally, it would use part of its strength to strip a round from the mag and the slide forward travel speed would be significantly reduced.
So, when the hammer is cocked, by the slide (in live) or hand (dry-fire), and falls on the sear, doesn't induce any force?
 

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Ah guys, the only thing stopping the slide and barrel assy from flying off the front of the frame when being forced forward by the recoil spring is the barrel hooks hitting the slide stop. Releasing the slide stop on a empty mag/chamber has the lower hooks slam full speed into the slide stop pin. IMO not good. YMMV.
why is it bad for the barrel feet to forcefully contact the slide stop pin?
 
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