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Looking for a rail gun for nightstand and IDPA duty. I have a VBOB, which I love, and which is of course head and shoulders above all the other 1911’s I’ve owned (Kimber, SA, Remington).

Naturally, now that I’m looking for a railed 1911, the Specialist is at the top of the list. However, I saw a few good reviews of the M45A1, which, frankly, along with the aesthetics, piqued my interest.

For those that have shot both, are they even comparable?

Is the M45A1 as accurate as some reviewers claim?

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I have not shot either of these pistols but have shot plenty of both types of guns Dan Wesson and Colt, and I own a 1/2 a dozen DW and not one colt. So, I'll let that speak for it'self. For me it's a matter of consistency, I personally think Colt lacks in the QC department, therefore it is hit or miss, and while time to time you will hear of a problem with a Dan Wesson their CS is great. And when there is an issue in even a slight appearance defect they mark the pistol as a blemished model. I would say if you want a for instance call colt CS see if you get a hold of anyone or how long it takes them to call you back, and then call DW and do the same. In my experience with both DW is much more personable and much more concerned about whether you are happy with their pistols.
 

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I can tell you I’ve handled both , shot the specialist not the colt and hands down fitment and finish the DW wins all Day, there is basically no fitment on the colt they rattle like crazy , also a few DW points there are no M.I.M.parts and some parts are actually fitted in the dw they also do some real good QC and at the price point the dan Wesson cannot be touched ! Also dw customer service is excellent , i own 2 dan Wesson’s 1 older colt and numerous Nighthawks and Wilson combats and have seen and shot many high end 1911s and can say without a doubt if you want the absolute best in a production 1911 get the dan Wesson , nothing against colt they just can’t justify there cost for there quality in my opinion anyways ! Good luck man
 

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I have not shot either of these pistols but have shot plenty of both types of guns Dan Wesson and Colt, and I own a 1/2 a dozen DW and not one colt. So, I'll let that speak for it'self. For me it's a matter of consistency, I personally think Colt lacks in the QC department, therefore it is hit or miss, and while time to time you will hear of a problem with a Dan Wesson their CS is great. And when there is an issue in even a slight appearance defect they mark the pistol as a blemished model. I would say if you want a for instance call colt CS see if you get a hold of anyone or how long it takes them to call you back, and then call DW and do the same. In my experience with both DW is much more personable and much more concerned about whether you are happy with their pistols.
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I shoot IDPA and didn't know that a rail gun could be used in CDP. I though they could not make weight. I will have to check the rules, or maybe someone could chime in. The extra weight at the end of the frame would be nice.
 

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I shoot IDPA and didn't know that a rail gun could be used in CDP. I though they could not make weight. I will have to check the rules, or maybe someone could chime in. The extra weight at the end of the frame would be nice.
Rails are allowed, but that’s a good point about weight. That would be good info for sure...
 

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Have shot the specialist extensively and shot the CQB the specialist is the hands down winner here. The fitting is far better Trigger, sights and over all build quality is just better done and of better quality as well as the parts used being of better quality. IMO they aren’t comparable. And take what you read in gun rags with a grain of salt whoever pays them the most of gives them the most free stuff always makes the best gun.
 

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Have shot the specialist extensively and shot the CQB the specialist is the hands down winner here. The fitting is far better Trigger, sights and over all build quality is just better done and of better quality as well as the parts used being of better quality. IMO they aren’t comparable. And take what you read in gun rags with a grain of salt whoever pays them the most of gives them the most free stuff always makes the best gun.
You know that's right the media get paid to report the news in more ways than one~! Just a different venue, or a different slice of the same pie.
 

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I have a Specialist with 9mm / .38 Super barrels. By far one of the most well built and accurate autos I’ve shot - crazy accurate. I also own a couple recent production Colts, to include a DE and 9mm Competition. They are both pretty accurate, but fit and finish pale compared to the specialist and both have thumb safeties with mushy over travel. In fact, tomorrow morning the DE is going to a new home. The Specialist is definitely worth the extra dough.

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The Colt is a fully qualified, tested, built to mil standards weapon. Just something to consider.
 

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Dan Wesson or Colt? Both will do what you wish to do, IDPA, carry and home defense. None of these require extreme accuracy. The DW guns are tighter than Colts, that in itself doesn't make the DW better for your purposes. I have a Colt Wiley Clapp Commander and a Valkyrie Commander, the Colt is a .45 and the DW is 9mm. I like both a lot and wouldn't part with either. Whether the DW will out shoot the Colt remains to be seen. Yep the Colt rattles like a 1911 is supposed to do.
 

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Not even one dissenting voice to say that the M45A1 is not a run-of-the-mill Colt (no MIM, national match barrel, etc.)?
Match barrels are fairly common in Colts. I have a Colt Rail gun that came with one.

The Colt is a fully qualified, tested, built to mil standards weapon. Just something to consider.
That really doesn’t mean what you’d hope it does, unfortunately.



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I have no doubt that the DW would be far more refined.

What keeps me interested in the Colt, beyond the aesthetics, is the $; it seems I could get a used one for <$1200, and I’d think that further depreciation would be minimal. It seems a little harder to get your money back out of a used DW, they just don’t seem to have the name recognition with folks who aren’t “in the know.”

This is only a factor because I’m by no means certain I’d keep either one;I can’t imagine carrying anything other than the VBOB, and I currently shoot it in matches also.

A big knock against the Colt would be holster selection due to the 1913 rail; seems holsters would be limited to custom.
 
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