Moderate time lurker, finally joined up. I've been shooting 1911’s for a long time, but started getting serious about them in 2007 when I bought a Les Baer SRP. Shortly after that a Nighthawk Talon. Then a Wilson and the sickness really kicked in. Many years later, well let's just say I have more than the 3 mentioned above. Over the years, I’ve read many a post about “semi-custom” brands and I have to say I don’t quite get this moniker. Yes, its’s the old ‘semi-custom’ vs. ‘custom’ debate. LOL. I’ve seen many people describe Wilson, Nighthawk, Baer, Brown, Guncrafter, etc. as “semi-custom”. And then the “custom” guys are generally Heirloom, Stan Chen, BEC, Combat Precision, Chambers, etc. Even heard some classify Volkmann as a full house custom gun. Now I fully agree the latter set are custom guns. But why not the former? Is it because of price point? Volume of production? Exclusivity? Is it that usually it’s one guy building guns? I mean, Nighthawk offers one gun, one gunsmith builds, but people claim them as “semi-custom”. In my mind there is no “semi-custom”. There is either production OR custom. In my opinion, if you can have a gun built to the exact configuration you want, then it’s custom. If it’s hand fit to precision standards by one or a handful of gunsmiths, then it’s custom. If you’re innovating parts design and setting the standard for accuracy and reliability, then it’s custom. I’ve owned many high-end 1911’s over the years, including Baer, Wilson, Nighthawk, Alchemy, Brown and Cabot. And with each one (possible exceptions with ACW and Cabot), I have been able to order exactly what I wanted from a myriad of build options. Now some I’ve liked more than others. I’ve definitely sold some to fund others from brands that I preferred more. There are times I’ve considered going with a full house custom because I want to get really unique. But then I get to talking to certain smiths and they tell me “Well, I’m not set up to do that particular option” or “I only use this particular brand of beavertail”, etc. How can that be “full custom” if my options are limited more so than say Wilson or Nighthawk, but those brands are considered “semi-custom”? I get that some full custom guns may achieve somewhat better accuracy or a more refined trigger, but there is also a law of diminishing returns to some degree. You’re not getting twice the accuracy for the twice the price in many cases. Maybe with Chambers…but as he pointed out, he’s seen $7k customs from some builders with almost no barrel lug contact. However, a 1-inch guarantee at 25 yards as offered by most “semi-custom” builders is still better than 98% of people can shoot anyway. All in all, not trying to say the full custom guns are not good or not worth it. They most certainly are to some degree and I might venture into one someday. I am on the wait list for the official wait list with Stan Chen lol. But why are some considering some of these brands who pioneered the redesign of the 1911 as mere “semi-custom”? In my humble opinion, the classification shouldn’t exist. Please debate are your leisure.