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I can adjust to the height issue during the trials with a rmr.

I just do not want to cut a slide . Then I am stuck withthe rmr. THat is why a dovetail mount r the IOS is a better option for my purposes.

I am not a competition shooting. JUst someone hwo enjoys shooting all types of guns and options
Getting a slide cut does not mean you are stuck with an rmr. Other than the IOS, there are other guys who will cut the slide for a plate, so you can change optics as needed. C&H is one that does good work, and there are others.
 

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Here is one that I have if you may want to get into red dots. The CZ Shadow 2 optic ready is around $1500.00. This is shooting off hand at 7 yards Here is a photo.
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So, this kind of gets back to the bigger idea of the low thumb thread.

Was that group shot slow fire, or was it a series of sub 2 sec bill drills? If it was slow fire, not so great. If it was sub 2 sec bill drills, that's awesome.

I'm not trying to be a jerk in anyway, and I have no concern or judgement about how others spend their range time and shooting interests. My point is that the pic doesn't actually give us any information. That same group can be shot with irons under a large variety of circumstances. If that offends anyone, sorry, it was not my intention at all.
 

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If you just want to experiment with a RMR and not mill the slide, go with the EGW mounting options for your slide and RMR, there have been a couple of folks at classes I attended recently that went that route, its a pretty good method - just not as good as milling the slide for a lower mount. I get not wanting to cut into the slide though, I am in the same boat with my nice customs, I ended up picking up a SA Pro with the intent of having that cut up for an RMR because it had no sentimental value to me and far less financial value than a custom gun though I recognize in the long run buying a gun just to cut up to try out a new sight is an expensive path ;)
 
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It’s the reason I bought the Kimber KHX I have up for sale with an RMR installed, I have moved onto the 2011 game, but it came cut with plates!
 
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The target has over twenty five rounds fired, the gun was new and i was testing it out. At 81 years old and having the shakes that was the best I can do. My intent was not to Brage.
nice ragged hole there
 

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I agree with the rear sight being too high, but shooting a Glock MOS could also dissuade him as well. The first gun I shot with a RMR was a Glock 19, and I didn’t like it at all. It wasn’t until I got a shadow 2 OR in a trade that I really liked it.
I was the exact opposite. I rented a G17 or what ever a full size 9mm Glock is and loved the dot from the first shot. I had never shot a Glock before and just wanted to try out any optic the range had to rent.
 

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If you just want to experiment with a RMR and not mill the slide, go with the EGW mounting options for your slide and RMR, there have been a couple of folks at classes I attended recently that went that route, its a pretty good method - just not as good as milling the slide for a lower mount. I get not wanting to cut into the slide though, I am in the same boat with my nice customs, I ended up picking up a SA Pro with the intent of having that cut up for an RMR because it had no sentimental value to me and far less financial value than a custom gun though I recognize in the long run buying a gun just to cut up to try out a new sight is an expensive path ;)
SA pro is a great gun and would be perfect for this mission.
 
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I went another route with my DW Specialist. I ordered a Caspian slide with the RMR cut. I mounted a Trijicon SRO on the slide with Trijicon‘s adapter plate with sights. My gunsmith fitted the slide to my DW frame, runs great. The cost for the Caspian slide was not a lot more than having mine cut for a RMR.
 

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Low or high to bore axis is almost irrelevant.
Look at the world's best uspsa shooters. Chore optics a=e about 1 1/2 to 2"s above bore line. No one shoots faster accurately than those guys.
So egw will give you a good idea of optics.
Shoot as much as you can with optics before you decide.
Took me about a 1000 rounds before I felt comfortable with them.
 
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The target has over twenty five rounds fired, the gun was new and i was testing it out. At 81 years old and having the shakes that was the best I can do. My intent was not to Brage.
Like I said, there is no criticism of the shooting intended. Context is the issue. At 81 and shaking hands, I would say solid job!

And to be clear, I didn't take it as bragging. I didn't take it as anything, as the context was missing for me. You have now filled it in.
 

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"Like I said, there is no criticism of the shooting intended. Context is the issue. At 81 and shaking hands, I would say solid job!"
I concur....I hope to still be rocking a 1911 at your age!
 

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Here is one that I have if you may want to get into red dots. The CZ Shadow 2 optic ready is around $1500.00. This is shooting off hand at 7 yards Here is a photo.
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I have one of those! Not a huge fan, great shooting on your part, but meh on the S2 OR, I am assuming you like yours?
 

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I recently mounted a RMR to a DW Valor with the EGW plate. The additional height did not bother me, but did find that I had to tip the front of the barrel down significantly in order to see the red dot. Groups tightened up noticeably using the RMR.

With iron sights a person focuses on the front sight, lines it up with the back sight then moves the whole gun to the target. With a red dot you look at the target, then move the dot to that spot and shoot. It does take some different brain training.

Still have not made my mind up, will need to shoot it several more times before deciding. Good luck on your decision.
 

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some great ideas here. I have a SA OPerator from benchmark precision. great gun. I always shoot it low though. Thinking that gun might be the red dot recipient. for a trial run.I do not see the Operator on the list but plenty of SDA guns are supposed to fit with this mount according to their list
 
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I have a G19 with an RMR mounted and the red dot makes hitting the target much easier and faster. Machining the Glock slide allows the sight to sit quite low in relation to your hand. If the Glock doesn't point to your satisfaction, point with your thumb. If I point with my thumb the red dot appears on target. I haven't tried a 1911 fitted out yet, but an arched mainspring housing makes a 1911 point similar to a Glock for me.
 

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Here's some pics of an EGW Dovetail mount on my Staccato P 4.14. I mounted a HOLSUN 507C x2 on it cause like you I didn't want to have the slide cut. I tried it but just didn't care for the way it looked, so I purchased a Staccato P DPO and mounted the HOLSUN on it. Here you can compare the difference in how they set on the slide. I also purchased a Staccato C2 DPO and mounted a Leupold directly to the slide without needing a plate. I know these aren't a 1911 but it should show you what it looks like.
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Here's some pics of an EGW Dovetail mount on my Staccato P 4.14. I mounted a HOLSUN 507C x2 on it cause like you I didn't want to have the slide cut. I tried it but just didn't care for the way it looked, so I purchased a Staccato P DPO and mounted the HOLSUN on it. Here you can compare the difference in how they set on the slide. I also purchased a Staccato C2 DPO and mounted a Leupold directly to the slide without needing a plate. I know these aren't a 1911 but it should show you what it looks like. View attachment 819541 View attachment 819542 View attachment 819543 View attachment 819544 View attachment 819545 View attachment 819546
that is a nice rig. If the mount fits my Operator, I am looking at a holosun and that mount as my first dedicated rmr on a 1911.

thanks for the info and pics

BTW how did you mount a leupold without any slide suts.

I have shot a leupold deltapoint recently (on a glock 19 that a fellow range member was shooting) it is a really cool sight and idea
 
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