Fusion Firearms Frame.

Discussion in '1911 Gunsmithing' started by Mike A, Nov 1, 2019.

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  1. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 19, 2017
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  2. UBOATDOC

    UBOATDOC THE DOCTOR WILL SEE YOU......LATER Supporting Addict

    Apr 5, 2015
    Having had a couple of their guns in the past, they are pretty good. But Caspians are in the price range and thought to be a bit better. I would check with Brownells.
     
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  3. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 19, 2017
  4. jcc7x7

    jcc7x7 Well-Known Member

    Nov 2, 2019
    Caspian is running a sale on their Foster frames which is their Blem "name"
    Never had a problem with a Caspian frame or slide, used a bunch of them
     
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  5. KS95B40

    KS95B40 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Aug 16, 2017
    Fusion seems to get mixed reviews on this forum however I thought the C Class frame that I bought last year was a good quality frame. It was the first 1911 I assembled completely from parts that I accumulated (not a kit like my first one).

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    Pictured with the book that inspired me to build it.
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    My other Fusion frame was included in a complete kit (minus grips and magazine).
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    I think it is of good quality as well.
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  6. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 19, 2017
    Wow they look really nice & the frame is flawless.
    How much work did you have to do on the frame?
    Other than the normal fitting of all parts less slide &
    frame fitting.

    I do not want to spend a fortune to replace a cracked
    1911 frame. All other parts are 1911 mil. Spec. &
    should be fine. I reckoned that using Mil. 1911 parts
    it would fit loose but that's not a problem for
    a Pick up/Tackle box pistol. A cracked frame no no :(.
     
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  7. KS95B40

    KS95B40 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Aug 16, 2017
    I didn’t do any work on the frame at all. I fit the slide to the frame and the bottom of the frame tangs are a little proud compared to the grip safety that I used. I will probably file the tangs down to match the contour of the safety at a later date when I feel a little more confident.

    The frame is still in the white, I haven’t decided on the final finish yet.
     
  8. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 19, 2017
    My slide is Parked so I will just finish it to fit.
    I looked at a lot of the 80% kits & parts but
    I'm not set up to do machining.

    Caspian frames looked good as well but said things like
    fitting frames etc. Both Cos. frames look good
    & are priced reasonably. I just need a finished frame
    for this job.

    Perhaps a Caspian frame user will post their
    experiences for a good comparison look.
     
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  9. KS95B40

    KS95B40 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Aug 16, 2017
    I forgot that I did polish the frame grooves for the trigger bow.
     
  10. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 19, 2017
    To improve function, or to fit the bow?
    I do not mind polish or improving fit & function.

    The finish on the frame looks well done.
    It should be easy to blast & finish.

    What did you use on the blue gun?
     
  11. KS95B40

    KS95B40 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Aug 16, 2017
    Just a few more pics of the frame.
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  12. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 19, 2017
    That's a great fit.
    Under $200 for a finished frame, that's good.
     
  13. KS95B40

    KS95B40 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Aug 16, 2017
    The blue gun came completely finished from Fusion. It was a kit of the Freedom series Government GI in 9mm. It was already pre-fit. All I had to do was assemble it and supply my own magazines and grips.

    It was on sale for $100 off. Even after shipping and transfer I had less than $550 in it.

    It does seem to prefer heavier ammo - 147gr Speer Gold Dots are the most accurate through it. And it is quite accurate.

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    The only changes that I have made is I swapped extractors for a WC Bullet Proof (although the original did work ok) and I swapped MSH for a GI with a lanyard loop, just because I like the looks of a lanyard loop.
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    Edited to remove a pic of the wrong pistol.
     

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  14. KS95B40

    KS95B40 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Aug 16, 2017
    I polished the trigger grooves just because I figure it can’t hurt. I have the stone from Brownell’s and polish the grooves on all of my new 1911s just to slick the trigger up. It may be my imagination (I don’t have a trigger pull gauge) but it does seem to help.
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    The C Class was finished well inside and out. No machining marks that i could see.
     
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  15. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 19, 2017
    I totally agree.
     
  16. KS95B40

    KS95B40 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Aug 16, 2017
    I just wish that their carbon steel frames were on sale as well.

    For $125 each I would get both a Government and a Commander.

    I just don’t need a stainless frame.
     
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  17. KS95B40

    KS95B40 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Aug 16, 2017
    Mike A, one other frame that you might want to consider for an under the seat truck gun or tackle box gun is a stripped frame from Armscor/-Rock Island.

    I bought a complete pistol (incredibly cheap - I have less than $300 in it including FFL transfer fee) that a guy had collected all of the parts that he needed to assemble and then lost interest in the project before ever starting assembly. I suspect because the slide barely started on the frame rails before locking down tight.

    I did do some filing on the frame rails in addition to fitting some of the other small parts. I liked how the pistol came out so I bought another frame to use with my Remington Rand slide/High Standard barrel project.

    The frames are completely finished and the finish is a good match for both of my USGI slides.

    Pics below;
    First project w/ GI replacement side and barrel.
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    Remington Rand slide
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    BTW they are stripped frames. I staked that plunger tube on.
     
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  18. Crewchief

    Crewchief Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

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    Sep 7, 2017
    I have a Fusion Bantam frame that started life as a Bantam (their Officer's model) that I had them do quite a bit of customization to. I ended out CCO'ing it with a Commander upper from them as well.

    The lugs needed some fitting, but the frame and slide matched precisely. It took a bit more diddling to get it reliable (while not relevant to the immediate discussion, they have a bad habit of under-springing their recoil springs), but the thing's a tack driver now and I'm very happy with it.

    The only caveat that I'll give you is that, if you order direct for them, make sure that they have it in stock first and that you're not ordering any customization. They do a good job on both, but they took quite a while. I have a thread on here somewhere about my experience. PM if you want more.

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  19. Bender

    Bender Supporting Addict Supporting Addict

    Aug 15, 2011
    I sure as hell wouldn’t build a gun with Fusion parts. Call me crazy, but I want QUALTY parts, not the cheapest crap available.
     
  20. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 19, 2017
    That's exactly what I need for an old GI 1911. Thanks for the great advice Fellow addicts.
     
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