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I am in need of a full size 9mm. Narrowed it down to these two. Les Baer PII with fixed sights, or STI Trojan with fixed sights . There is about a thousand dollars difference in the prices, but please leave that out of the decision makeing process. What say you ?
 

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DW PM-9 if you can find a new one. Is choose the Trojan because I don't do Baers
 

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I would also suggest the PM9. I heard that only 50 were made for 2011. Dont know if that's true, but I got mine.




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What are you using it for?
 

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STI. I plan on picking up a Trojan when I can afford it. I've seen them in action and they are solid shooters, especially for the money. And I just don't like Baer. :lol:
 

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Nice looker claire :thumb: Though never owning a DW, I've heard a lot of good things about them!
 

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Neither...if I was going to buy a production type gun, which I'm not by the way, my choice at this point in time, from what I've seen, would be the Dan Wesson. Pound for pound, dollar for dollar, in 9mm, they make a nice gun. But that is just my opinion based on my own experience seeing various models over the years.
 

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DW makes a nice gun, but the PM9 is extremely hard to find. STI would definitely be the route i would go, and spend the rest on ammo
 

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I am in need of a full size 9mm. Narrowed it down to these two. Les Baer PII with fixed sights, or STI Trojan with fixed sights . There is about a thousand dollars difference in the prices, but please leave that out of the decision makeing process. What say you ?
I vote for the LB PII. :thumb:
 

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Neither...if I was going to buy a production type gun, which I'm not by the way, my choice at this point in time, from what I've seen, would be the Dan Wesson. Pound for pound, dollar for dollar, in 9mm, they make a nice gun. But that is just my opinion based on my own experience seeing various models over the years.
I have a PII in 9mm that I dearly love,but it was problematic until I changed mags and went up a lb in recoil spring weight.(I know,I took the easy route!)

And my DW CCO will be my last DW I am afraid.

But,I have a feeling that 1911's FEAR not working for you Joe. :eek:

Having seen pics of your work,I have a feeling that you could make a Taurus feed a garbage can!

DAT85
 

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Neither...if I was going to buy a production type gun, which I'm not by the way, my choice at this point in time, from what I've seen, would be the Dan Wesson. Pound for pound, dollar for dollar, in 9mm, they make a nice gun. But that is just my opinion based on my own experience seeing various models over the years.
True, but I doubt I could find one. They did only make 50 this year. Also, I want fixed sights.
 

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I had the Kimber Target II. I also have the Guardian. I looked at a Springer Loaded at my LGS, but it is probably the worst fit 1911 I have seen in a long time.
 

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I like my Kimber Stainless II (Non Adjustable Model) but of the two you listed I would go with the STI just for the price difference.

I would also not mind the Baer as well but would want to invest in Hard Chrome for it which adds to the price.
 

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Dat85, LOL! You are too kind sir. But you are correct, they do seem to run when my part is done correctly. If the choice were only a PMII or an STI my choice would be the STI. That way there would be money left over to have "corrections" made when necessary.

Glock2740, well, perhaps you have never seen these pics of guns tested for ten shots at 50 yards:

A rebuilt 9mm that shot right at .750" for it's groups:
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Oh wait, this one was a .45...sorry...but the group on the right is 1.065" and the one on the left is .869"...does that count for accurate?
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Be careful making all encompassing statements like this:
The 2 most accurate 9mm 1911's known to mankind. :nod: :thumb:
about this or that gun, unless of course you have pictures or numerical facts to back up such statements. ;-)
 

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You should buy an STI shadow and have Joe turn it into a 0.5" at 100 yard gun.
 
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