Help me out here guys... I need advice.

Discussion in '1911 Gunsmithing' started by Longbow, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. Longbow

    Longbow Well-Known Member

    567
    Aug 15, 2018
    I found a 1980 Stainless Combat Commander (Series 70), which I picked up for a build.
    The gun is original, in box, light use, very faint idiot scratch. It needs a good clean.

    The lines are extremely straight, and the gun is tight, but not too tight.
    Frame dust cover is thick, and the slide locking lugs are extremely good, and sharp.

    The plan was to get it for a two-tone build.

    Checker front strap at 25 LPI and undercut trigger guard.
    French cut slide.
    Ball cut slide.
    Dovetails for Novaks or similar.
    Polish the slide flats.
    DLC coat the slide.
    Ed Brown or Wilson Grip safety.
    Frost the frame and controls with a medial blast.
    Bevel magwell.
    Harrison trigger and ignition.
    Wolf springs, and Colt sear spring.

    But now I'm unsure, as it's so nice....

    Can't get pix of it, right now, because I'm at work, but here's a picture of the box...

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  2. Old Sea Dragon

    Old Sea Dragon Well-Known Member

    Feb 10, 2018
    Use a well recognized smith and build it up. Don't worry about modifying it because you will enjoy it better once it comes back as you have envisioned. If you leave it as is you will ignore it most likely and end up selling it.
     
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  3. rjinaz85308

    rjinaz85308 North Central AZ Grasslands Supporting Addict

    Jul 27, 2012
    Probably nickel not SS. Colt didn’t do stainless till mid 80’s. Nice pickup. Good luck with build


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  4. Babboonbobo

    Babboonbobo Avatar is back to my favorite things!

    Nov 18, 2014
    It’s just a nice Colt, not some rare bird, so go for it.
    Make it yours!
     
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  5. Oldgunner

    Oldgunner Well-Known Member

    737
    Mar 30, 2018
    Sounds like a candidate for some Steve Owens TLC.
     
  6. wrmiller

    wrmiller The Tinker

    Oct 29, 2016
    I have a soft spot for old Colts, so I'd probably put some new innards in it, tighten it up a bit and keep it closer to original looking. Probably a slight modification to the grip safety as I have large hands and hate getting bit by the hammer or slide. :)

    If I wanted to do what you listed above, I'd just buy a frame and slide and hack that up. But that's just me... ;)

    EDIT: I do like the two-tone idea. :D
     
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  7. Longbow

    Longbow Well-Known Member

    567
    Aug 15, 2018
    How can I tell if it’s nickel, and not stainless ??

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  8. Longbow

    Longbow Well-Known Member

    567
    Aug 15, 2018
    Slight idiot scratch...

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  9. KS95B40

    KS95B40 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Aug 16, 2017
    I am mixed on this one. As others have said your Commander isn’t a rare or (comparatively) valuable 1911 and it would make a great base for your custom build... however... because of its condition I would probably keep it as is and enjoy it and find one that is not quite so nice to completely rework and refinish.
     
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  10. wrmiller

    wrmiller The Tinker

    Oct 29, 2016
    That looks like nickel, but I'd have to feel and see it in person to know for sure.
     
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  11. limbkiller

    limbkiller Pulling my hair. Supporting Addict

    Aug 18, 2011
    The first SS Colts were 83 or 84. So yours is nickel.
     
  12. Integrity Arms

    Integrity Arms 1911 Pistol Smith

    Mar 20, 2017
    At first I though maybe hard chrome, I have an identical gun in the shop right now for extraction problems. And it is hard chromed. However it does look like satin nickel, like the 81 I have that just sold for a build. When I zoom on the pics that is definitely it. Don't believe they made an early Colt Combat in SS at all.

    My recommendations would be to build the gun.. It's not often that you find such a nice base from those years and the one's in rougher shape just cost more to build because there is more work involved. The finish would or should be chemically stripped and that would cost around $100 or so. These guns honestly are out there all over the place, this would be the 3rd I've seen this week of that time frame and in that good of condition.
     
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  13. Apollo99

    Apollo99 Well-Known Member

    Jun 26, 2017
    That's a very nice stock looking Colt Combat Commander, I had a satin nickel one from the 1972 that was in 99% condition. They shoot ok, but the sights could use an update, the finish was not very durable, and while the innards were of good old colt quality, it needed a trigger job. If I had your Colt, I would make it how I wanted it. Sight, grips, trigger job, the works. Like old sea dragon said, if you don't change things up on it, you won't want to carry it or shoot it much and then probably sell it. Make it into the one you want.
     
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  14. Just Terry

    Just Terry Well-Known Member

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    Dec 24, 2018
    nailed it
     
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  15. limbkiller

    limbkiller Pulling my hair. Supporting Addict

    Aug 18, 2011
    Here's a first year SS Colt that I had Lou do a little work on.

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  16. Longbow

    Longbow Well-Known Member

    567
    Aug 15, 2018
    We need to talk, Steve.
    As I mentioned to you before, I’d planned on a Springer MilSpec build.
    But I may have to go this way instead.
     
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  17. Integrity Arms

    Integrity Arms 1911 Pistol Smith

    Mar 20, 2017
    I'll send you a Pm after dinner.
     
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  18. simonp

    simonp Well-Known Member

    May 27, 2016
    Well said


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  19. simonp

    simonp Well-Known Member

    May 27, 2016
    I’ve sent several similar condition Colts to Smiths, build it, it’s just a tool, make it into what you need and want.


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  20. Lou1

    Lou1 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Sep 1, 2018
    Has it previously been refinished ? I thought that the bs in the serial # denoted a blued gun. I know that on my pre 70 series Combat Commander the satin nickel is denoted by an SC in the serial number.
     
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