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Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Stogies, Oct 8, 2017.
Brother, I could only imagine how bad that could have turned out. Somebody was looking after you.
At first I thought the title was click bait, but no completely justified.
As an IPSC shooter, from before the power factor drop, I’ve shot some seriously hot supers. A good 1911 should be able to take it. Sorry this happened to you.
THANK YOU. Yeah, I was at a loss myself. And I’m even on my third cup of coffee.
Glad you weren't injured. I started reloading last year and took two precautions. I bought a cheap "range gun" and created my own targets with neon orange 2" circles on a white board. I can see every shot and am VERY conscious of squibs, especially in rapid fire. Hope your discussion with Winchester and the pistol manufacturer. Maybe someone will want to help you out. Let us know how it goes.
That's crazy. Glad no one was hurt.
WWB in 9mm from a recent range day. I felt it before I put the round in the mag. So who knows where there quality control is at.
Wow, I hate to think what that would have done
Same thing happened to a friend of mine. The conclusion was operator error. While disassembly the practice was to drop the mag and eject the chambered round to clear weapon. After many times of cycling the same round from the top of the magazine to the chamber the bullet worked its way down inside the case where it finally fell below crimp and compacted the powder charge. He decided to fire it like that instead of using a puller to take the bullet apart. The damage wasn't quite that bad but he did split the barrel and the empty case ejected but FTF the next round.
First off, you are blessed to be in one piece. Secondly I am sorry to hear about your pistol. If you are at all like me, only kids, wife, and dogs come before my firearms. IMHO it does appear to be ammo related. May I ask why you shoot +P? I'm not getting on a soapbox here, I just was always led to believe +P ammo is, at best, risky. I load my own for my rifles and pistols. In particular, my .45acp is my fun range gun. I modded it for the light loads I make for it. My experience with the 1911 began in 1973. I am an amateur smitty and have done my own builds and mods for a good while now. You may find yourself very pleased with a lighter load, say 185gn jhp over 5.9g unique. easy on the pistol as well as my hand. accurate nough that my shooting pals always want to shoot my .45 and rave how it is manageable. Ultimately they build one like mine. Just foor for thought and again, I am glad you are ok. Money is nothing compared to your digits!! feel free to contact me anytime and safe shooting!!
38 super is only available in +p.
That pistol is more than capable of that load.
Thanks for the well wishes
+P is not risky provided the gun was designed for its use.
.38 Super is headstamped +P since the early 70’s to further distinguish it from the old .38 ACP, which is dimensionally identical. Just in case someone who’s about to stick a magazine full of these in an old Colt M1900 decides “Nah... +P... Not gonna do that”.
Seen this more than once with the combo of stainless barrels and WWB ammo. Very seriously doubt it was a squib. Looks like weak barrel steel and a round that was a little hot.
More specifically, I've seen four stainless barrels of one specific brand do this exact same thing over the past couple of years...which is why I use Kart barrels exclusively.
Mr. Chambers is quite right.
And, as a side note, the pressure limit for .38 Super +P is only 36,500psi, hardly anything exotic in this day and age. Not much different from 9x19.
It is also true that Winchester White Box has given more than one problem or two with erratic loads.
I stopped using WWB several years ago...had more issues with it than any other ammo.
Ironically the only reason I bought it was because the company I normally order from was out of my usual ammo
Still could have happened with any ammo.
I guess that ends that
Wow! What a freak accident! And with factory ammo too ...
I agree with those who feel Winchester has some liability here.