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I’ve gone tacticool - SA Hellcat RDP

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Last September, I received my custom TT Gunleather IWB with black elephant. Instead of 50/50, like my older TT w/elephant, I asked for a 30/70 split biased to the outside. This holster was made for the SA Hellcat RDP I purchased prior and couldn’t find a good leather holster I liked.

My RDP came with the 4 MOA Shield SMSc.

I’m still pretty new to pistol optics. I put a DPP on a GLOCK, a couple of years ago and just shot it last summer. By the time I shot the first pistol optic I bought, I had acquired two more setups: a Sig AXG w/Holosun and this SA RDP. My son and I shot them all the same day. I was firmly strapped into the struggle bus. The DPP was just too darned high. I kept going straight to where the sights were. The AXG was much better - full-size firearm and a much lower optic. The RDP optic and sights cowitness - the best way.

This weekend, I decided I was going to see if I could get the RDP dialed in and if I could get good enough at picking up the dot to make it my primary carry.

Yesterday, we put the following through it, without any malfunctions:

50 Fiocchi 115gr
50 Blazer Brass 124gr
50 American Eagle 124gr
40 HST 124gr +P

I chased the zero around a bit before I figured out the different ammo hit in different places. The two FMJ 124gr types both hit in the same place. Interestingly, the 115gr Fiocchi (says 1,200 FPS on the box) and the HST 124gr +P hit in the same place.

Everyone liked it, but agreed the trigger sucks.

This morning, I got squirrelly and decided to put in the APEX trigger and striker spring kit in. It’s been on the shelf for many months. That went fine and I used the opportunity to clean out all the oil and grease and convert to FrogLube (I know some people just got triggered, lube is not the purpose of the thread).

Today’s shooting was to make sure the trigger worked and verify the optic was still on target, in addition to general practice.

Ammo was 100 rounds of the 115gr Fiocchi, a handful of partial boxes of different brand JHP, and 47 rounds of HST +P.

I started from 25 yards and shot the 12 rounds I of HST’s I had loaded to drive out. I was a couple of inches high, so I decided to dial it in. Naturally, I brain farted and moved the dot the wrong direction, so I got to shoot a few extra rounds to get it back on target.

The APEX trigger is a marked improvement and I found it worth the time and cost. Other shooters agreed.

Since I’m still new to pistol optics and this firearm/holster setup, I spent a fair bit of time at 11 yards drawing and shooting one shot. Boring, but it made a huge improvement in my ability to present and put the dot on target.

In the three occasions at the range, I’ve had zero malfunctions.

Here is a pic of the old setup by the new one:

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G23 on left (I carried a G27 instead) and RDP on right.

Here is the APEX trigger:

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Here is my son’s group, from 11 yards. Even with the comp, he finds it a little hard to handle, but still shoots as much as I’ll let him.

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From the 11 yard line, I shot the center out of the target.

Here is my last 8-shot group of the day, 25 yards resting my arms on a golf cart seat back. No, it’s not very good. Since my head injury, I’m not a very good shot. Yes, it’s embarrassing, but I’m working on it. Ignore the flyer, on the right. My son was riding the four-wheeler, behind me, and he smashed into something right before I pulled the trigger (it sounded bad, but was nothing).

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With around 500 trouble-free rounds, I’m ready to make this my new primary carry. It’s going to be weird. My previous carry pieces were a G27.3 (2008-2023) or a 442 (2012-2023).
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I have heard less than stellar things about the shield sights. I believe they have some sort of deal with SA, or maybe SA owns them. Whatever the case may be, I'd personally swap it out.
I have heard less than stellar things about the shield sights. I believe they have some sort of deal with SA, or maybe SA owns them. Whatever the case may be, I'd personally swap it out.
Are you sure you’re not thinking of the Hex Wasp?

The SA sight is the Hex Wasp. Those had so many problems SA stopped selling RDP’s with them.
SA offered the Wasp or SMS, when the RDP first came out. SA then went exclusively to the Wasp and stopped offering the SMSc.
Around the time SA changed their “LE line” to FIRSTLINE, the Wasp was having so many problems they stopped shipping them and brought the SMSc back.
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Fun little pistol! I was picking between this and a ported Shield Plus and went with less tacticool option
Are you sure you’re not thinking of the Hex Wasp?

The SA sight is the Hex Wasp. Those had so many problems SA stopped selling RDP’s with them.
SA offered the Wasp or SMS, when the RDP first came out. SA then went exclusively to the Wasp and stopped offering the SMSc.
Around the time SA changed their “LE line” to FIRSTLINE, the Wasp was having so many problems they stopped shipping them and brought the SMSc back.
I was under the impression they’re effectively the same optic on slightly different housings. I could be mistaken.
I was under the impression they’re effectively the same optic on slightly different housings. I could be mistaken.
I heard SMSc is same internals as JPoint but has an aluminum housing. JPoint used to have a decent reputation. Not even sure if they still sell them.
Good to see you putting in trigger time despite injury. Nice write up too. I am also working on my optic use. I drew and drew and drew out the holster getting off x and bringing the weapon on target. Better and better as time goes on. On for 1 month and I see the results getting better. More practice. Considering I did this with irons for 23 years I imagine I will get better as I keep pushing.
I like mine co-witnessed as well as I have drilled so much my battery died and is working in a lit environment on the solar back-ups, thank god, saves my bacon as I had to hunt for a suspect today and it works nicely with little light. Score 1 for holsun.
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Have you tried a P365? I couldn’t shoot the hellcat with a darn but the 365 was amazing.
Have you tried a P365? I couldn’t shoot the hellcat with a darn but the 365 was amazing.
The Sig 365 family didn’t offer what I wanted (or at least I didn’t know about it, if it existed). I wanted the longest barrel and shortest grip possible. All of the 365’s I saw with the 3.7” barrel had longer grips than the regular 365. The RDP has a 3.8” barrel plus the comp/thread protector.

I don’t find the barrel/slide length the hardest part to conceal. For me, it’s the grip. I can carry 11+1 in the flush mag or 13+1 or even 15+1, depending on my need to be fully concealed.
Are you sure you’re not thinking of the Hex Wasp?

The SA sight is the Hex Wasp. Those had so many problems SA stopped selling RDP’s with them.
SA offered the Wasp or SMS, when the RDP first came out. SA then went exclusively to the Wasp and stopped offering the SMSc.
Around the time SA changed their “LE line” to FIRSTLINE, the Wasp was having so many problems they stopped shipping them and brought the SMSc back.

Agreed with TangoHotel, Shield is okay for range/plinking use but would look at replacing with Holosun or Trijicon for EDC.
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Good to see you putting in trigger time despite injury. Nice write up too. I am also working on my optic use. I drew and drew and drew out the holster getting off x and bringing the weapon on target. Better and better as time goes on. On for 1 month and I see the results getting better. More practice. Considering I did this with irons for 23 years I imagine I will get better as I keep pushing.
I like mine co-witnessed as well as I have drilled so much my battery died and is working in a lit environment on the solar back-ups, thank god, saves my bacon as I had to hunt for a suspect today and it works nicely with little light. Score 1 for holsun.
You saying you actually had a real world use for the solar failsafe? Not doubting, just very surprised to hear it. My experience is that the solar-only mode is incredibly underpowered.
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It was the same low power setting so I don't notice the decrease power and visible with house light. Had to clear a garage and outside out buildings and had enough light to do so. The high power is too bright and distracts from my focused threat. Afterwards went to the store and bought a couple batteries. Checked my rifle, damn if it wasn't dead too. I run the 403 solar and glad I did. Dim but deadly. Changed the batteries in it too. Murphys law.
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