Infamous Shok buff

If one chooses to run a shok buff, and has a need to release a locked back slide with the over hand technique we all know most or a lot of pistols will not allow this because of the added thickness of the shok buff, anywhere from .090 to .110 in thickness. This requires one to use the slide stop to be used to release the slide to go home into battery.

The gun in question is a 5" 9mm Rock belonging to my daughter, the gun shoots super soft now with the way it's sprung and the light load 100gr FMJ. The use of the shok buff even reduces felt recoil and muzzel flip even more for her. She shoots CQB with me a couple times a month which incorporates the use of carbine /rifle as the primary weapon, with transition drills from rifle to pistol requiring one handed shooting and reloading with the use of the overhand technique of the pistol during a reload.

The slide does retract slightly with a shok buff in place, but it is short approx .035 of retraction to allow the slide to kick the slide stop down, to utilize the over hand technique.

I have the rear of the dust cover taped off at the rear .035, and my favorite number 2 cut file ready to remove that needed .035 from the back of the dust cover to allow the overhand technique to be used with the shok buff in place.

I've been looking at this modification now for about 10 hrs trying to discern if there is going to be a timing problem for feed,fire, extract, eject, or a valid reason not to do this modification with the shok buff in place, or if the shok buff is removed after the .035 as been removed.


So there is the long question of; can one remove approx .035 from the rear of a dust cover to facilitate the use of the overhand technique to release the slide into battery with a shok buff in place.

 

Yes.......... thought about that, my guide rod head is .090. .090 minus .035 = .055. I'm thinking thats gonna be alittle on the thin side,don't know????

The guide rod is a easy part to replace though, slides are a little pricey. LOL LOL

 

Quack HI

Yes yes........ I already have a EGW firing pin stop installed with a small radius, 12lb recoil spring, and a 21lb mainspring. The gun runs about as slow as you ever ask for, the cases dribble out 4-6 in, and just fall to the ground. I'm trying to take this recoil reduction right down as far as I can go, with the shok buff it is lessened. Now I have to set it up to use the overhand technique to release the slide.

 

I spose that could be done, mine are .090 thick reducing the thickness each time to replace it is just not going to be feasible. Now if I could buy some that are only approx .050 thick, that I would try.

 

I'm starting to think part of the answer may be in the min and max length of the dust cover, and the min thicknees one could reduce the recoil spring plug flange down to.
Wished I had a blueprint.

 

Gotta go........... but I'll be back................ The Betterhalf just walked through the door with a 12pk,and a large cheese and sausage PIZZA.

 

Okay...... I'm back


No.. I'm not having a recoil spring bind problem, the gun runs out just beautifully. My problem is when the shok buff is in place, the slide cannot be released by grasping the top of the slide with your weak, hand pulling it back to release it (the slide) into battery.

I need to gain some more clearance where the rear of the dust cover makes contact with the shok buff. Right now I believe my only options are to shorten the dust cover's rear, the thickness of the shock buff, thin up the recoil guide plug flange or a combination of both. This would allow the slide to be pulled the approx .035 further to the rear, allowing the slide to kick the slide stop down, which inturn will release the slide to go home into battery, instead of having to use the slidestop.

 

Joe HI thanks. I actually dislike the use of a shok-buff, it is something that I'm willing to try for my daughter's 9mm for practice, to gain every ounce of recoil reduction possible shooting one handed and weak hand. The gun shoots very soft now without a shok buff, and I may be just chasing my tail on this.

If I understood correctly, the modification can be done with out harm. Care must taken to ensure the recoil spring plug does not bottom out with the recoil spring guide rod flange, the nose of the recoil spring guide does not bottom out inside the recoil spring plug and of course the recoil spring does not enter into coil bind. These clearance issues would also have apply if one decided to remove the shok buff and shoot the gun.