Springfield Armory Is the SA Pro "all that"?

Discussion in 'General 1911 talk' started by Doc45, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:31 PM.

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  1. Doc45

    Doc45 Well-Known Member

    Jan 26, 2018
    One of the guys at the range where I shoot, don't know him very well, just got a new Pro for right at $3k after shipping/fees. I didn't shoot it but looked it over closely. Great looking pistol but that price point has a LOT of choices available. Is the Pro THE gun to have at that dollar value? Thanks.
     
  2. Glock2740

    Glock2740 1911 addict Staff Member Moderator

    Aug 16, 2011
    Nope.
    Great gun but you better ike the way it comes or get ready to drop more money on it to make it more to your liking.
     
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  3. simonp

    simonp Well-Known Member

    May 27, 2016
    It all depends on you, what you like, what you want. I’ve seen good, bad & indifferent Pros, I like them in concept and for the right price I’d own one but the right price for me is lower than $3,000.

    I will say at $3,000 there are a lot of options, lot of far more expensive semi customs can be had for $3,000 or less in the pre-owned market these days.


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  4. handforged

    handforged Limestone Canyon Leather and Tool Supporting Addict Sponsor

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    May 19, 2020
    Lots and lots of quality guns in that price range. Nighthawks, Les Baer...a thousand used customs and other quality builds.
     
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  5. JM44

    JM44 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Feb 2, 2018
    Very opinionated question. I have a pro and many in that price range. The pro is very well fit respectively. The hand fitting is evident and it is a very nice gun to hold. I like the 20LPI but others don’t. However, I actually shoot my TRP better than my pro and shoot my NHCs and WCs better as well. My personal experience is it is very well but there are other very good or better options out there for the price, really depends on what you want
     
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  6. Doc45

    Doc45 Well-Known Member

    Jan 26, 2018
    Over the past 42 years I've owned some very fine 1911s-can't imagine what the early ones would cost today-Novak and Wilson built Colts, Les Baers, and a full custom by a local smith that I shoot better than all of them lol.

    I'm not in a position now to drop even close to that on a gun, this is the first Pro I've even ever seen. My first impression was that it was very nicely fit but not sure if I was flush enough I'd buy one.

    Thank you all for great insights, I do sincerely appreciate it.
     
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  7. rjinaz85308

    rjinaz85308 North Central AZ Grasslands Supporting Addict

    Jul 27, 2012
  8. Infidel4life11

    Infidel4life11 الواحد

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    Apr 17, 2019
    So.........

    I really like the PROs however,

    1. For half the money you could have a Original DW Valor or Specialist that are, IMO, better in a lot of ways.

    2. You pick it base gun and send it to @Integrity Arms and spend less and get the options you want

    3. Let the above do a full custom build for $3500 that’ll make every PRO owner cry themselves to sleep. Then have something to pass on to family.

    Springfield Pros are really good guns but about $1k over priced IMO. I would own a used one for about $1500 and keep it the rest of my life. I rather have a gun built by a craftsman than a semi custom that’s barely a step over a production gun.
     
  9. AZ Husker

    AZ Husker Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

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    Oct 14, 2017
    It's still a Springfield. I hate the way they marketed themselves as America's oldest armory while building most of their guns in Brazil. Anyway, I've got four Guncrafter variations all in that price range that are impossible for SA to match.
     
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  10. Ethank

    Ethank Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2017
    I really enjoy my pros. I have several. They can be had for as cheap as 2000-2100 on the used market. I think they are a great gun for that money. I also enjoy the heritage of them and would prefer an older gun built during contract days. Are there better options? Sure there are. But it will Last a life time and has a no thrills attitude to it that I enjoy.
     
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  11. BigDeeeeeeee

    BigDeeeeeeee Idaho 1911er

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    Aug 19, 2011
    It's a nice pistol but no, it's not all that. It was a grail gun for me though and nothing could keep me from getting one. I like my Guncrafters better, maybe the Wilson too.
     
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  12. monadh

    monadh Sapientiae Timor Domini Initium

    May 8, 2012
    For that price, ACW all the way.
     
  13. Apollo99

    Apollo99 Well-Known Member

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    Jun 26, 2017
    The SA PRO was the most tested 1911 when the FBI chose it. There are stories that other companies submitted better 1911s, but SA was able to guarantee the number required, the warranty and the government price point. I had three, sold one for a profit, gave one to my son and still have my original one. Mine were made during he FBI contract so I won't speak about the new ones. I think between the FBI heritage, the reliability and the fit and finish, you would have to be looking at Wilson, Ed Brown, Guncrafter and a few other top tier semi-custom guys to match the quality. When they were $2200 new they were a great deal, now at the $3000 price, they are still good , but the price increase gives them more competition at that price point. The thing that turns some people off the PRO is they only came one way, no changes or customization. Now they come in 9mm, but still only one way, no changes.
     
  14. Ethanol Red

    Ethanol Red Make it a double Supporting Addict

    Jul 12, 2015
    They are a known quantity. For better or worse. History and lineage, tradition and feelings. I’d love to own one someday. Your typical GI is probably a better gun but hey; it’s a PRO.
     
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  15. puddi_nugget

    puddi_nugget Well-Known Member

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    Feb 5, 2014
    I really enjoy mine. The execution is very well done.

    Parts used does not equal execution. 100% contact on lower lugs, perfect lines and checkering, classic look. Not a fan of the thumb safety though.
     
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  16. vermilionbird

    vermilionbird Active Member

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    Jan 4, 2019
    I think today in 2020, when you buy a Pro you're not necessarily buying it because it has the best quality or feature set (which is kinda dated today). You're buying it because it's a Pro and all the prestige and provenance that comes with it.

    Sidenote to @AZ Husker, I've learned Springfield is doing all of their forgings and machining domestically now and I don't think they rely on anything from Brazil at this point.
     
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  17. Tactical Rico

    Tactical Rico Well-Known Member

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    Apr 16, 2016
    I will go along with some of the others that have stated the PRO is expensive and compared to some others maybe not the best gun for the money, today. Having said that...............
    I bought my PRO when the were first available to the public and, in my opinion, were the best 1911 available for the money. For the record I paid $2000.00 for mine brand new from Springfield. It was then and still is an outstanding 1911. I shot it in competition and carried it as a CCW pistol for a time. Maybe 5000-6000 rounds through it and not one malfunction of any kind. I have kind of taken to carrying a LW Commander these days but the PRO will always be my favorite pistol and won't be sold......for any price. JMHO.

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  18. simonp

    simonp Well-Known Member

    May 27, 2016
    I think that $2,000 is just about right for the Pro, if they were priced that way now I'd pick one up myself.

    $3,000 is just too much for what it is. Sorry SA
     
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  19. Greenrunner

    Greenrunner Well-Known Member

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    Dec 11, 2017
    Everyone has an opinion. In my case, my Pro and Alchemys are in the "never sell" category whereas I thought the Nighthawks I owned were way overpriced and overhyped.

    The Alchemys are a special case value-wise. They actually are underpriced, so comparing them to another $3k gun is somewhat unfair.
     
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  20. Whiskey Sour

    Whiskey Sour Blossoming Addict

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    Apr 13, 2017
    I have been fortunately enough lately to handle many different brands in the same price range and the SA PRO that I handled had THE smoothest slide to frame feeling of any 1911 I have ever handled/felt. People always talk about the ball bearing feeling; I always thought that comparison was at times somewhat of a stretch, until I felt this SA PRO I handled recently. Combine that with it's interesting history, and I certainly think it is a cool option in it's respective price range.
     

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