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Will be purchasing either the JM Custom Kydex AWIB Wing Claw 2.0 or 2.5 with discreet carry clips for ccw for my DW Vigil 5 inch 45 1911.

- Do you Carry a 5 inch 1911 or a full size gun with either holster.
- How well does it conceal the grip.
- What's the comfort level.
- Can you carry all day long.
- How is sitting with the full size gun.
- How is the draw from AIWB with full size gun.
 

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I've been using JM Kydex since ~2014, top notch products.

I carried my LTT Beretta in a 2.5 and prior had a 2.0 for a G17. If you want to adjust ride height, I would suggest a 2.5 as the design makes adjustments easier.

Both tuck the grip really well for my body type. Comfort is really good for me, even on long drives. It isn't something I don't feel when sitting as any long slide is going to be noticed regardless of holster. It is by no means uncomfortable. Draw is easy with either; both allow a ride height for me that allows a solid full grip. It was a little lower by default setup than I liked, but was easy to change.
 

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I’ve had a mix of the 2.0 and 2.5 for 1911 4.25 Railed and 5” non-railed, Beretta’s, Glocks, and my P365XL.

I prefer soft loops, as I’ve seen many Kydex or molded clips break. Just recently tried the Discreet Carry Concepts Clips with my P365XL holster and a 1911 holster, overall they’re pretty solid.

But yeah, the JM AIWB Wing Claw will give you everything you’re looking for as far as concealment, comfort, and a positive/full grip.

I prefer a longer holster, even if you’re running the shorter slide version of whatever gun you’re carrying. I’ve found that the longer slide/length of the holster aids in concealment and is more comfortable.

Order the small sponge pad just to see if you like it, or if it helps you. I’ve found that on some guns I like using the pad and some I don’t.

Also, the railed 1911 holster I have seems to fit a non-railed 1911 just fine.

@NPV posted a very good review that actually got me into this holster. And @theJanitor is very knowledgeable on AIWB rigs as well.
 

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I appreciate the information. I'm gonna go with the 2.0 with discreet carry clips, extra tuck, pad and wedge. Will take a while to get it, 5-7 weeks according to website. Looking forward to this setup.
 

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I’ve been running the JMCK 2.5 for a 5” 1911 for quite a while now and still really enjoy the holster. But let it be known that body type plays a big part in comfort. I reached out to Tony via another forum and got his recommendation before I made my purchase. I would recommend doing the same, he is always more than happy to answer questions.

Concealment is the best I have ever experienced for a full size 1911. The holster comes with two “claws” one for more and one for less tuck so you can adjust it to your liking. As @Jollyroger1 mentioned I run the smaller sponge pad as is does aid in moving the grip into your body.

I type this all as I’m sitting with a 5 Shot Leather SME is on my belt. The SME isn’t nearly as good at concealment as the JMCK but it yields a faster draw for me because the grip is further from my body (my choice in months when I can wear a sweatshirt or button down). So just be aware there is a happy medium between concealment and being able to get good draw.

Personally I’d skip the extra tuck if you’re going with a wedge (too much of good thing doesn’t make it better). Plus you can’t remove it if you find it uncomfortable. Attachment wise I like soft loops, clips and other types of attachments are easily broken or pulled from waistbands in gun grab and entanglement situations.
 

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I've been using JM Kydex since ~2014, top notch products.

I carried my LTT Beretta in a 2.5 and prior had a 2.0 for a G17. If you want to adjust ride height, I would suggest a 2.5 as the design makes adjustments easier.

Both tuck the grip really well for my body type. Comfort is really good for me, even on long drives. It isn't something I don't feel when sitting as any long slide is going to be noticed regardless of holster. It is by no means uncomfortable. Draw is easy with either; both allow a ride height for me that allows a solid full grip. It was a little lower by default setup than I liked, but was easy to change.
You prefer a full size pistol aiwb in either of these pistols. You currently carrying the beretta. Thought about getting one 92A1
 

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I’ve been running the JMCK 2.5 for a 5” 1911 for quite a while now and still really enjoy the holster. But let it be known that body type plays a big part in comfort. I reached out to Tony via another forum and got his recommendation before I made my purchase. I would recommend doing the same, he is always more than happy to answer questions.

Concealment is the best I have ever experienced for a full size 1911. The holster comes with two “claws” one for more and one for less tuck so you can adjust it to your liking. As @Jollyroger1 mentioned I run the smaller sponge pad as is does aid in moving the grip into your body.

I type this all as I’m sitting with a 5 Shot Leather SME is on my belt. The SME isn’t nearly as good at concealment as the JMCK but it yields a faster draw for me because the grip is further from my body (my choice in months when I can wear a sweatshirt or button down). So just be aware there is a happy medium between concealment and being able to get good draw.

Personally I’d skip the extra tuck if you’re going with a wedge (too much of good thing doesn’t make it better). Plus you can’t remove it if you find it uncomfortable. Attachment wise I like soft loops, clips and other types of attachments are easily broken or pulled from waistbands in gun grab and entanglement situations.

Apprentice the information. I going to try the extra tuck. I live in South Texas and it's HOT. I want as much of the grip hidden as I can. I believe I will be able to rig this deal up to suite me just fine. Do you carry any other pistols in this fashion.
 

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Apprentice the information. I going to try the extra tuck. I live in South Texas and it's HOT. I want as much of the grip hidden as I can. I believe I will be able to rig this deal up to suite me just fine. Do you carry any other pistols in this fashion.
I’ve carried Glock 19s and still carry snub nose revolvers (on occasion) in this fashion.

Another note, there is a trick to sitting comfortably for longer periods of time. First of all you don’t want to have your belt very tight when sitting (I’ll usually loosen it one notch). Then you can move the holster up so it’s riding parallel with your torso. If you leave it riding low it is going to wedge in between your torso and thigh and makes for a very uncomfortable situation (I think this is why a lot of people complain about this mode of carry).
 

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I carry a snub nose revolver in aiwb and was carrying a glock 48 aiwb but sold the glock. It's not bad at all. With the glock I'm not a fan of not having a hammer to monitor. Tried the glock gadget but still was not 100% on it in the aiwb position.
 

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I’ve carried Glock 19s and still carry snub nose revolvers (on occasion) in this fashion.

Another note, there is a trick to sitting comfortably for longer periods of time. First of all you don’t want to have your belt very tight when sitting (I’ll usually loosen it one notch). Then you can move the holster up so it’s riding parallel with your torso. If you leave it riding low it is going to wedge in between your torso and thigh and makes for a very uncomfortable situation (I think this is why a lot of people complain about this mode of carry).
Brings up another great point. What belt. I have a Graith Specialist. Will that work.
 

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I want to try a JW. But me having a dad bod have a slight gut. But since my back is doing better I am determined to hit the gym again and get back to my 5-10 mile runs a day. Even though it will take time. Before my back got jacked I was in the best shape of my life. Sciatica pretty much limited my immobility plus 2 kids.

Anyone have a slight dad bod and aiwb carry.


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I want to try a JW. But me having a dad bod have a slight gut. But since my back is doing better I am determined to hit the gym again and get back to my 5-10 mile runs a day. Even though it will take time. Before my back got jacked I was in the best shape of my life. Sciatica pretty much limited my immobility plus 2 kids.

Anyone have a slight dad bod and aiwb carry.


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You should be fine, one of the reasons I moved away from the traditional iwb position is it bothered my back. Carrying a 50 ounce gun behind my hip was pretty much un-doable with any semblance of comfort for me. Especially seated.
 
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