It seems if all the barrel is fitting is done in a homogeneous approach, things turn out well. I think its important not to do xxxx to xpart of the barrel and yyyy to the y part ofI’ll admit, when I first started reading that thread and learned of the dreaded barrel bump, I went and cried in a corner for a few hours feeling that my Wilson’s were no longer adequate.
And then I started doing research. Lots of research. I found threads about ransom testing of various builders to confirm accuracy that was “guaranteed”.
I came away from that with several conclusions. First of all, while there was validity to the importance of 100% contact, it wasn’t an absolute necessity to achieve excellent accuracy. Second, there isn’t one and only one way to fit a barrel so that a high level of accuracy is obtained. And lastly, the ammunition selected is equally important as the barrel fit in order to get good results.
All in all, I respect the philosophy, but it shouldn’t be taken as the one definitive approach.
You know , I just got off the phone with him and learned everything is ok , and learned why he made the choices he did ,Yes,He is doing great!
Right but then you have to open the link pin hole, often with deleterious effects@bladeandbarrel
more Ed Brown info. Check out part 4.
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I know them both. Fred makes a great barrel but Ed sure knows how to build a gun. I always have had a hard time wrapping my head around the "right" way to fit a barrel.Nah. You only have to open it enough just so it moves with the slide stop pin pressed as far as it can. Hardly anyone is fitting barrels with only .030 flats anymore. My .200 cutter didn’t even touch the Kart barrel feet with .030 flats so the barrel straight out of the bag had more than that.
Hell, even ordinance specs had .040 on the drawing.
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I’ll take Fred Kart’s barrel knowledge over Ed Brown’s any day. Know what I mean?
I think you would be surprised by the number of top tier smiths that ever size or oblong the link hole now a days.I know them both. Fred makes a great barrel but Ed sure knows how to build a gun. I always have had a hard time wrapping my head around the "right" way to fit a barrel.
One person says "never open the link pin hole" and another says "open it up". The Shuemann barrel fitting instructions say to never open up a link hole to allow link down.
I guess there is a philosophical disagreement between barrel makers on long flat vs link pin hole. Anyway, carry on.
totally and completely agreeSo many varying ideologies on the proper build philosophy. As with many things, I don’t think there is one definitive way to build an accurate 1911. There is definitely a wrong way. But there are so many variations that prove success.
Even some top smiths have admitted they’ve worked on guns that they just “knew” would not group at all. Put them on a ransom and they turn out to be tack drivers. Sometimes there are exceptions to every rule.
I always thought Khunhausen was a pseudonym and one really knows for who, though many have speculated Ron Power.Procedures evolve and methods improve from things that have been established as standard 30 years ago. Ed Brown is VERY respected in the biz and along with Bill Wilson, they pushed this platform to where it is now.
Now ask yourself this, when was the last time you think Ed Brown fit a barrel?
Keep in mind that things that are published might not actually be correct. Smiths like to point out that the Khunhausen books have a few things in that them aren’t exactly right but the works as a whole are an excellent reference source. I’ve seen a few smiths say the Khunhausen books are good but have you ever seen a Khunhausen gun? Nope.