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It was a nice day today and took out my fairly new Dan Wesson Vigil Commander out to my back yard range. After about 80 rounds I had a failure to return to battery. Slide was frozen to the frame. Back to the garage and after a couple of gentle taps with a nylon headed hammer the slide came off. There was some slight galling on the slide to frame fit (rails). A few swipes with a file removed some small burrs. No damage, mechanically or visually, done to the gun. This gun was very tight on the slide to frame fit and the barrel bushing fit.when I first got it and after 1K rounds is still tight.

This gun had been setting on a bed stand for many months and when I got the slide off I wasn't happy with the lube that was on it. (FP-10).
 

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Yup agreed I let some sit in the safe for longer than I would like and before a range trip I lock the slide back and use the lucas needle tip on the inside of rails , on barrel and close it and put some on the barrel hood and cycle it a few times before shooting it 馃憤
 

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When I buy a new hand gun I wipe the slide/frame rails clean as soon I get home. Then I apply lots of Weapon Shield oil from an oiler pen. I clean/reapply often after shooting my guns. I simply cannot remember a FTF.
 

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Caspian can 鈥渢reat鈥 the rails and slide of the items they produce. I can鈥檛 remember what they call the process but it worked on the two Caspians I owned at the time. It was necessary on one as it locked up. Your experience is why I don鈥檛 trust an all stainless 1911.
 

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I picked up a tip from a leading builder and that's to use grease cut with a few drops of oil. I'm delighted with the results. Even after a few months in the safe the gun is ready to be fired.
That is what I normally do. Lucas Oil makes a marine grease that is much cheaper than their gun grease with no real difference.
 

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I believe a engine breakin oil like royal purple has a bunch of added zinc which helps prevent galling. Might be worth to run 500rds with this type of oil on a stainless slide to frame gun.
I personally avoid stainless just because of this possibility. My only silver 1911 is hard chrome, it's beautiful. Chrome has its own issues, not related to function though.
 

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Sacred cows are hard to kill.

But anybody that is interested. Bill Wison produced a small book on cleaning and maintainance of the 1911. The information can be applied to most any platform. Encourage all to get a copy. He specifies the only lubes he trusts.

Galling of stainless steel was encountered when stainless was first used. And not unique to firearms. Manufacturers first found they could avoid galling by using a different schedules (alloy) of stainless for the contacthng parts. Then they discovered that simply heat treating the parts differently accomplished the same.

One of the top custom barrel producers explained why the best barrels are stainless. Because stainless is superior. The grain structure is more consistant or homoginous.

Before retiring, i worked many years as a mechanical inspector for a major corporation. This knowledge was critical in the position. My personal Gunsmith and mentor told me that if he had his way all firearms would be made of stainless.
I trust those with superior knowledge and accomplishments. Have been shooting a vast array of stainless firearms for decades without issue.

Thanks for the post to remind how critical proper lube is.
 

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I used the Mil-Comm grease that came in a syringe, back when I owned a lot of Sigs, and Sig recommended it. Then one day, I left my console gun in the car overnight during a very cold IllAnnoys night, removed the slide and found strips and cakes of solid, crusty white crap on the rails and slide recesses. Never again. Doesn't freeze or gum, my tight white ... uhm ... socks. The thickest I'll go now is Gun Butter on the sliding parts, and FP-10, Lucas or M-Pro 7 on everything else. Besides, a little grit gets into the grease and what do you get? A lapping compound!
 

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Rookie question, but how often are you re-lubing your carry/home defense gun if it's carried/sits more than it get's shot?
I take my nightstand gun to the range once every couple of weeks that is how often I would check and relube it if I wasn鈥檛 actively using it
 
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