Solid choices; thanks for sharing.For 9mm, I use whatever ammo on Doc's list that I can obtain, and runs in my gun. Over the last five or so years, that is either Federal HST 147 or Speer Gold Dot 124+p. The last order in 2021, the GD was available, so that's what I ordered. Both have run in all my plastic striker guns 100%.
I don't have an experience with .45 SD ammo, so am hoping to pick up on input here for my new Garrison (my first .45, my first 1911). Looks like Federal HST or Ranger T Bonded are popular.
Hmmm, 2 questions....?Solid choices; thanks for sharing.
Yes, reading the thread thus far, it seems that flagship LE product lines from the leading ammo producers—Federal HST, Winchester Ranger, and Speer Gold Dot—are the most often chosen thus far. It also seems that folks prefer heavier bullets (e.g., 230gr. for .45 and 147gr. for 9mm) and more often than I expected, +P too. It also seems that Underwood is very popular among Addicts and that Doctor Roberts list and it’s data driven approach has inspired many folks, despite being older, because the essentials of what makes solid self defense ammo are unchanged. One exception is the addition of Lehigh full copper rounds to the mix.
I have yet to shoot the Lehigh-type bullets but the data that is out there is very compelling. It really does seem to work as advertised.Thank you for the detailed and helpful follow up, @Merton and extending to more common calibers! The fact you can reload is an awesome plus, especially given no boon in the future of the ammo marketplace.
I want to share a suggestion and solicit feedback from others too wrt the usage of FMJ in different calibers. The primary scenarios for using FMJ as far as I understand it are: (1) concern a JHP wouldn’t expand given some problem (e.g., insufficient velocity, HP cavity plugged), and (2) a requirement for deep penetration.
Both of these can be addressed (after proper self testing) with the full copper, non-expanding Lehigh Defense penetration bullet which is available from them, WC (Wilson Combat bought the company), and Underwood.
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After stripping lots of marketing talk, they say this: ”…the Xtreme Penetrator Fluid Transfer Monolithic (XP FTM) product line, for both handgun and rifles. The progressive nose geometry allows for deep, straight penetration while creating a permanent wound cavity diameter exceeding that of most expanding bullets.”
The rest of the above as well as their offerings can be found on:Xtreme Penetrator - Our Technologies and it would be great if anyone who has done first hand testing, or research into these and can offer an informative view rather than my testing suggestion.