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Underwood 40 S&W and 10mm monolithics.

Recently bought some monolithic (copper) bullets and will be doing some of my own loads soon. Can't afford a steady diet of Underwood!
 

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Underwood 40 S&W and 10mm monolithics.

Recently bought some monolithic (copper) bullets and will be doing some of my own loads soon. Can't afford a steady diet of Underwood!
The monolithic stuff is uncharted territory for me. I used to load the 135gr. Nosler and 155gr. XTP's in .40 & 10mm. I hope you share your results as I for one am very curious.
 

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Big believer in Federal HST - 230gr Std pressure in .45 and 147gr in 9mm. I looked at every ballistic test available, and have shot a variety of critters with them and they just plain perform as advertised. Of course, good performance ammo gives a small edge, but SHOT PLACEMENT is 90% of the equation. I think we tend to overthink and dwell on bullet type. A hit to the brain-housing unit will do the trick regardless of the bullet type.
 

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Shot placement is everything. Every night around here huge mule deer are taken cleanly with .22lr, .22mag, .17 Hornet, etc. and they are NOT little east coast blacktails. Generally the .17's are for neck shooting. It is not illegal and people brag about it openly, though I don't see the brag myself. The largest cougar that I have ever seen was in the back of a Klamath's truck when I was gassing up at the Rez casino before dawn one morning. He hit it with his brights and shot it from the drivers seat of his truck without even turning off the ignition or leaving the highway. You'd have thought he scaled mountains searching for Dall Sheep or something, he was so proud.

The behavior is disgusting, but the performance of the rounds is quite frankly shocking. That is not the same as a defensive shooting, but it is a 200+-animal dying from a very small bullet wound.
 

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Don't know about that as I seem to recall reading quite a few articles of late about people surviving being shot in the head. :unsure:
Scary thing is, they sometimes don;t even lose their footing. Can you imagine taking a head shot and staying standing?

A head shot may not kill, but getting inside the brain pan definitely increases your chances compared to structural damage of the brain chassis.
 

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Don't know about that as I seem to recall reading quite a few articles of late about people surviving being shot in the head. :unsure:
Sure...a glancing shot in the head with a small caliber is survivable. :rolleyes: :cautious: A .45 crashing through the sinus cavity and brain is a stopper.
 

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Sure...a glancing shot in the head with a small caliber is survivable. :rolleyes: :cautious: A .45 crashing through the sinus cavity and brain is a stopper.
I suspect that many of those survived head shots were due to those nuclear/lung blowing 9mms I keep hearing about. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I'll carry almost any top-tier, American made 230gr JHP in .45, but I generally carry Gold Dots. I also have no problemo with carrying good ball ammo in the .45.

In the woods I'm probably carrying a revolver with a mix of above plus Buffalo Bore and maybe a pop of snake shot, depending.
 

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I'll carry almost any top-tier, American made 230gr JHP in .45, but I generally carry Gold Dots. I also have no problemo with carrying good ball ammo in the .45.

In the woods I'm probably carrying a revolver with a mix of above plus Buffalo Bore and maybe a pop of snake shot, depending.
This is a good point for anyone in snake territory. We have ratllesnakes less than 50 miles to the east and though I don't understand why they don't live here, I'm thankful.

FWIW, I have tried many snake loads and a .357 with a small rifle primer and #9 shot is very effective but the CCI "Big 4" shot loads that were new a decade or so ago(I don't know if they're still made) are awesome. The .38/.357 load is too small in my opinion but the .44 Special and .45 Colt Big Four loads has enough shot to make the larger #4 sized shot very attractive from what I've seen.
 

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Liberty--love the stuff. Reduces carry weight too in hi-cap guns.
Works well in my 1911 and my CZ97 45's.
I am always curious about the choice of new exotic ammunition. I am less adventurous in this context. What made you select these folk? Less weight is always good; just curious to learn something new.
 
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