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Need help identifying a M1911A1 Frame

Discussion in 'Collector's Corner' started by Leighton Burdett, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. Dec 2, 2018 #1
    Leighton Burdett

    Leighton Burdett New Member

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    Hello,
    Can someone help me identify this frame? If I go by the serial number it is a 1938 Colt M1911A1, but I am confused by what I am seeing in the fonts on the serial number and the positioning of the lettering of the M1911A1 roll mark. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     

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  3. Dec 2, 2018 #2
    SparkyAZ

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    Welcome Mr Burdett. Someone will be along to address your questions. Search and enjoy all this fine forum has to offer..
     
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  5. Dec 2, 2018 #3
    tac45

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    This should help

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  6. Dec 2, 2018 #4
    Joe Henrickson

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    Sir. Your gun is 12 sn#'s from mine and you are correct the font is wrong.The proof mark should be a large P. And looks like a Parkerized gun. Regards. Joe
     
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  7. Dec 2, 2018 #5
    tac45

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    Joe, the p (proofmark ie tested with overload ) can be large or small
    If more then one p appears on the same pistol they will both be equal in size ,please remember more than one person proofed1911s .
     
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  8. Dec 2, 2018 #6
    Joe Henrickson

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    Sir All 1938 were proofed with a large P it was also it acceptanice mark check your 1938 if you have any doubts.
     
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  9. Dec 2, 2018 #7
    Leighton Burdett

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    So does this mean the gun is a fake?
     
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  10. Dec 2, 2018 #8
    Lakeman45

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    Doesn't matter what the proof marks are, markings are bogus. Not even close.
     
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  11. Dec 3, 2018 #9
    Leighton Burdett

    Leighton Burdett New Member

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    That's what I thought, so any idea what this was? Is it even an M1911A1 frame? Could it be a Ithaca frame?
     
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  12. Dec 3, 2018 #10
    Lakeman45

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    At this point it really doesn't matter because it is illegal to own by federal law because the serial number has been changed.
     
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  13. Dec 3, 2018 #11
    Leighton Burdett

    Leighton Burdett New Member

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    Okay thanks for that information.
     
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  14. Dec 3, 2018 #12
    Joe Henrickson

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    Your gun is not a 1938 Colt 1911,maybe a 1914 Colt altered.any way not legit 1938 Colt 1911.
     
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  15. Dec 3, 2018 #13
    Leighton Burdett

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    Thank you.
     
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  16. Dec 3, 2018 #14
    Lakeman45

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    [QUOTEYour gun is not a 1938 Colt 1911,maybe a 1914 Colt altered.any way not legit 1938 Colt 1911.[/QUOTE]

    What about it looks like a 1914? Bubba didn't put those finger cutouts in that frame. Probably a late aftermarket frame with bogus markings.
     
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