Need some help diagnosing a failure.

Discussion in '1911 Gunsmithing' started by A34, Oct 24, 2020.

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  1. Uncle Bob

    Uncle Bob Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Sep 22, 2017
    Why? You want at least a 16lb spring in a standard 5" for shooting ball or the equivalent unless you like the pistol battering itself. Personally for hardball or equivalent, I use an 18lb spring, same as I did starting over 40 years ago.

    What kind of magazines are you using? There are quality magazines out there that pretty much remove the need for that until they do start to fail which is a long way down the round.
    If you shoot it, clean it. That pretty much removes the another potential source of problems.

    1) How are you shooting it? One hand? Triangulated? Weaver? You haven't let us know.

    I have a very old shooting buddy who's a great shot, but he's mainly revolvers. He's the first person that got my USGI 1911A1NM to stovepipe. So I cleared it and watched him shoot it. He was limp wristing it.

    The 1911 platform likes a solid backing to function, be it one handed, triangulated, weaver or whatever.

    There is also a very simple drill to clear stovepipes.
     
  2. pistolwretch

    pistolwretch Dremel jockey Supporting Addict

    Aug 26, 2011
    Steve in Allentown gives GREAT advice!
    One of the best internet sources of accurate info we have.
     
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  3. Uncle Bob

    Uncle Bob Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Sep 22, 2017
    Just out of curiosity, do you run 14lb recoil springs in yours?
     
  4. pistolwretch

    pistolwretch Dremel jockey Supporting Addict

    Aug 26, 2011
    There is a lot more involved than just the recoil spring.
    I often reduce slide mass significantly.
    Then there is the hammer, hammer strut pin hole location, mainspring, firing pin stop, hammer interface, bbl lug engagement etc all factoring in.
     
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  5. Uncle Bob

    Uncle Bob Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Sep 22, 2017
    I'm well aware, but on a stock 5" what are you running?
     
  6. pistolwretch

    pistolwretch Dremel jockey Supporting Addict

    Aug 26, 2011
    Bob,
    I don't have a stock 5" 9mm 1911.
     
  7. Uncle Bob

    Uncle Bob Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Sep 22, 2017

    What would you run in a stock 5" 1911?
     
  8. pistolwretch

    pistolwretch Dremel jockey Supporting Addict

    Aug 26, 2011
    I'd want to see it run......and run well, with a 12 or 14 lb recoil spring.
     
  9. A34

    A34 Active Member

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    Mar 22, 2020
    Thanks Brother! That's good stuff!
     
  10. Uncle Bob

    Uncle Bob Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Sep 22, 2017
    Thanks, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Never run anything but 18lbs for a hardball or hotter 5"
     
  11. pistolwretch

    pistolwretch Dremel jockey Supporting Addict

    Aug 26, 2011
    Bob,
    Back up.
    You asked me about a 5" 9x19mm?
    As for 45acp, I prefer a Wolff 16lb conventional.
     
  12. Uncle Bob

    Uncle Bob Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Sep 22, 2017
    PW, never mentioned a caliber, I just asked 5".
     
  13. pistolwretch

    pistolwretch Dremel jockey Supporting Addict

    Aug 26, 2011
    Somehow I thought this thread was about poodle shooters.

    My mistake.
    Old and easily confused.

    5" steel 45acp 1911,
    ALWAYS Wolff 16lb conventional.
     
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2020
  14. Uncle Bob

    Uncle Bob Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Sep 22, 2017
    No sweat PW. When we were running ammo a bit hotter then hardball to make sure the plates used for power factor in the good old days, 16lbs wasn't good enough. Old habit, I still run 18lb Wolff.
     
  15. pistolwretch

    pistolwretch Dremel jockey Supporting Addict

    Aug 26, 2011
    Ya........when I was young and really fast on the trigger, an 18lb spring
    increased the cyclic, tiny bit faster splits.
     
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  16. Uncle Bob

    Uncle Bob Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Sep 22, 2017
    Well I'm no spring chicken either, but I manage. ;)
     

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