new build retro or ?

Discussion in 'General 1911 talk' started by N of 1, Mar 20, 2020.

  1. N of 1

    N of 1 just one more

    Nov 3, 2016
    So I picked up a new gun recently and will have a few things done to it at minimum. Sights I can see and a trigger job. Other than that I'm undecided so thought why not solicit opinions on a potential build.

    Here's the base gun.

    And a quick pic from colts site

    If I'd build this a few years back I wouldn't have changed anything externally but as I'm getting older my eyes aren't so great anymore. I now wear readers and sadly noted that I shot better w/ them vs without them on a recent range outing. Damn. I've had near perfect vision most of my life, so this is a big thing for me. I also anticipate my eyes will continue to worsen, cuz that's what most do. Since this wont be anything of true value I feel a sight swap will be worth it.

    I'll need to be refinished, and I can't decide on blue vs park. Even wondering about a pre-aged rust job akin to zoids marvelous rust bucket. I'd imagine that this could be accomplished while leaving the inner surfaces clean and again it's no thing of true value so why not.

    Any and all other mods will be considered. Frankly I wish I was better w/ photo shop as I'd love to preview this with a more modern front strap, stippling/checkering, a bit of undercut, and maybe a compact grip safety but not full beavertail. I'm not totally opposed to the something old, something new mash up but I'm having a hard time picturing it right now for whatever reason.

    I've got a very similar spec'd retro pistol currently (will never look as good as this one can b/c roll marks) but it's been a while since I shot it. I don't recall any session limiting hammer bite, and don't mind the small thumb safety. Sadly I can't get to a range locally to "test drive" anything, as they are closed until further notice, so dry fire in the basement will have to do.
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  2. WC145

    WC145 Every day is Saturday and every night's a party!

    Jan 1, 2013
    With those rollmarks I'd go for a '60s/'70s retro style build. Keep it simple - checkering, sights, shorty beavertail or a rattail grip safety, put the money into the action, accuracy, and reliability. image035.gif

  3. limbkiller

    limbkiller Pulling my hair. Supporting Addict

    Aug 18, 2011
    What I did for two.

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  4. WC145

    WC145 Every day is Saturday and every night's a party!

    Jan 1, 2013
    Love those!^^^^ My King's is an original, not a repop, but it's the kind of build I'm talking about-

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  5. WC145

    WC145 Every day is Saturday and every night's a party!

    Jan 1, 2013
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  6. limbkiller

    limbkiller Pulling my hair. Supporting Addict

    Aug 18, 2011
    ^^^^^ Thanks!! A member at the shoot was ringing steel at 100 yards with these. Better shooter than me with them.:cry::roflmaro:
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  7. UncleCharlie

    UncleCharlie Active Member

    Aug 22, 2018
    I have zero guns from him YET, but Steve Owens at Integrity Arms has posted a lot of clean, OG-style stuff here recently that may be what you're looking for.

    I'd talk to him.

    I have a similar "retro"-style Officer build at Gritus Precision that should be alllllllmost done and ready for posting pics really soon. So excited about it.

    I'm glad to see builders getting away from the radical tactical slide cut style and more traditional 1911s. Either way, you have lots of options- let us know what you decide!
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  8. WC145

    WC145 Every day is Saturday and every night's a party!

    Jan 1, 2013
    I don't think builders are changing their ways, gunsmith's have their styles, but the person commissioning the build has the say in what they're looking for. Simpler, cleaner, more retro styles may be coming more into vogue. IMO, if you want to see some of the best examples of those kinds of builds from active 'smiths look at work by Greg Derr, Ted Yost, John Harrison, and Jason Burton.
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  9. limbkiller

    limbkiller Pulling my hair. Supporting Addict

    Aug 18, 2011
  10. UncleCharlie

    UncleCharlie Active Member

    Aug 22, 2018
    Yeah, I'm sure that's true... Honestly, I'm new to the custom trade- this order is my first. But I'm glad to see more classic builds posted lately.

    But it near-bout guarantees I'm gonna be spending money again soon!
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  11. Integrity Arms

    Integrity Arms 1911 Pistol Smith

    Mar 20, 2017
    This pistol is actually in my possession. @N of 1 I have some really good ideas for this.. When we talk again I'll share them with you and give you a heads up on some of the specifics, that already make this a bit unique anywayz..

    Got some ideas for them older eyes as well, I have the same issue and I get to try em all out.. lol Sights that is..
  12. Integrity Arms

    Integrity Arms 1911 Pistol Smith

    Mar 20, 2017
    I'd be more than happy to hook you up with a nice build.. Let me know when your ready, and I'll take good care of ya. Haven't had no complaints of yet..
  13. WC145

    WC145 Every day is Saturday and every night's a party!

    Jan 1, 2013
    For sure, just hanging around this place draws you in and few get out with their wallets as full as when they arrived!
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  14. Infidel4life11

    Infidel4life11 الواحد

    Apr 17, 2019
    For sights I’d do ones like limbkiller. With Harrison Design Retro rear and trijicon HD front or a wide notch Novak rear. Trijicon HD front are huge orange dot night sight I think would be easy for you to pick up.

    Have Steve checker the front strap and undercut the trigger guard.

    a slight break from retro is I would do a clean and simple beaver tail grip safety. These are comfortable and with Steve doing the fitment would get you hand nice and high.

    single sided thumb safety that is easy to use

    commander type hammer

    short or medium solid trigger

    matte blue or ion bond all the things

    I would either leave the lanyard loop mainspring or do a subtle magwell. I like magswells as everybody knows I’m a huge functionality guy. Gotta keep the gun gassed up so anything that makes loading the pistol easy I’m all for.

    edit again:
    Flush cut and crown the barrel
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  15. N of 1

    N of 1 just one more

    Nov 3, 2016
    This might be the closest to what I've thought of. Looks amazing, love the compact beavertail, and pretty much every thing else. It ticks all the right boxes w/o looking modern/tacticool

    I also very much appreciate the specific advice on sights etc.

    Thank you everyone for the feedback. By all means keep the thoughts coming. I'll post any updates and the final decision, once I sort it out w/ Steve.
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  16. cgff

    cgff Well-Known Member

    Aug 24, 2015
    ^^^^ this right here^^^ these are shooters

    I had a retro build done on a SS colt S70 a few years ago great gun never misses a beat but it was my first in an entry to custom and semi customs 1911s. It’s accurate and gets the job done but
    If I could give one thought or word of advise on a build go with a new barrel fitted!!
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  17. simonp

    simonp Well-Known Member

    May 27, 2016
    For me, if it was my gun:

    Sights are a definite - I’d go gold bead front and a larger rear sight, preferably a Jardine tactical hook or one of Chuck Rogers

    Front strap - serrations you give some added grip but subtle changes to the looks

    Internally an EGW ignition properly tuned, 3-3.5# trigger

    Kart barrel & EGW bushing

    Then carry & shoot!

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  18. Whiskey Sour

    Whiskey Sour Blossoming Addict

    Apr 13, 2017
    I would want to do a more modern classic style like Yost does with those reissues if it were me.

    Last edited: Mar 22, 2020
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  19. UncleCharlie

    UncleCharlie Active Member

    Aug 22, 2018
    Thanks for the offer, Steve- hope it stands until I can convince GrandadCharlie that I need his Delta Elite more than he does. Hehehe. I suppose I could buy my own, but then it wouldn't be Grandad's when I give it to one of my kids.

    Anyway, been watching the Delta build you've had going on. Love the concealment grip safety and the IA treatment. Hope to give you a call soon....
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  20. Uncle Bob

    Uncle Bob Well-Known Member

    Sep 22, 2017
    Thanks I always wanted to see how those main spring housings looked on a pistol. I usually had lanyard loops on several of mine (especially my brush pistol).

    I think I'll put them on a few of mine.
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