Next S&W that I don't need

Discussion in 'Revolvers' started by HooDoo Man, Mar 30, 2019.

  1. HooDoo Man

    HooDoo Man Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Dec 26, 2017
    Want another .357 for CCW. Torn between a Mod 60 3" or Mod 66 Combat Special 2.75". I know the 66 is heavier but wondering if someone has the experience with both? It will not have a steady diet of mags for sure. Just incase something really ugly comes my way. And don't tell me to get both. I'll wind up broke and single.
  2. Scaramouche

    Scaramouche Student of the Columbian Exchange Supporting Addict

    Sep 15, 2015
    The 66 holds 6 and is easier to shoot accurately. But since that last sentence contains three 6s I refrain from saying any more.

  3. gps man

    gps man Well-Known Member

    Nov 7, 2015
    We don’t want to go all mark of the beast here....

    Get the 66. One more round and MUCH easier to shoot.
  4. mikegalway

    mikegalway CEO of DILLIGAF industries Supporting Addict

    Feb 23, 2014
    I occasionally carry a 3 inch 65 . Holds 6 , easy to shoot .
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  5. SparkyAZ

    SparkyAZ It is a dry heat, right... Supporting Addict

    Sep 11, 2012
    66 or 65...
    PS: Don't forget the Model 19
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  6. tac45

    tac45 What me worry ? Supporting Addict

    Mar 4, 2012
    There’s nothing that equates to spending a day at the range firing full house .357s in a Smith
    J- frame except going target shooting with a .600 nitro express
    If you don’t want the bones in your hand to turn to jelly trying to master it , do yourself a favor and buy the 66 or a 686 as it can accommodate seven rounds .
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  7. Jwp

    Jwp Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Feb 6, 2019
    :roflmaro: True That!
  8. N of 1

    N of 1 just one more

    Nov 3, 2016
    I'll be the naysayer. Go for the model 60. The first C in CCW is concealed, the 66/19 etc is a fairly big gun. The j frame I can tuck under a t shirt
  9. BigJimP

    BigJimP Well-Known Member

    Mar 12, 2018
    Go with the K frame ....model 66. Much easier to shoot.
  10. Old Sea Dragon

    Old Sea Dragon Well-Known Member

    Feb 10, 2018
    If you put a premium on shootability and accuracy go with the 66. If concealment is your highest priority then the nod goes to the 60, but it will never be the best platform for .357. A 66 allows you to comfortably shoot .357. I owned them both for many years until giving my 60 to my daughter for her 21st birthday. I bought my 66 around 1990 and carry it a lot. I shoot it as well as a 4" gun. A good pancake OWB conceals it and makes the weight comfortable.
  11. WC145

    WC145 Every day is Saturday and every night's a party!

    Jan 1, 2013
    I assume you're talking about brand new guns. I'd skip anything new and find a nice pre-lock 2.5" M66. There's plenty of them out there and they can be had fairly reasonable. Great shooting guns that are easy to carry and usually have outstanding triggers.
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  12. switchback

    switchback Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2014
    I'll agree with the 66. Wife has a 3" m60. I don't like it, barrel too long for pocket carry, if getting a 60 get the 2" barrel. But I recently traded into a -6 m686 plus with 2.5" barrel. There's slot to like about that revolver. Big fire power, easy to conceal, I carry it working around outside and with an extra speed loader never feel under gunned. Oh yeah accurate and reliable as well
  13. KS95B40

    KS95B40 Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Aug 16, 2017
    If your main requirements are concealability and light weight you might try the 360PD. It’s basically a super lightweight model 60. Barrel length just under 2” and built for sustained full power .357 loads. (You may not be but it is.)

    I have the .38 special version, the 360J and it is a handful shooting 125gr or 158gr HPs but actually fun to shoot when loaded with 148gr LWCs.

    You could do like I do, practice with light target loads and carry it with whatever you want.

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    A pic for size comparison with my 2.5” model 66 and my 2” model 631 (same as traditional model 60 on the outside, chambered in [6] .32 H&R Magnum on the inside).
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  14. salelcid

    salelcid Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Nov 28, 2015
    I am a little one sided. The 65 with a 3 inch barrel is a favorite of mine!
  15. Ingramite

    Ingramite On The Lost Highway

    Sep 16, 2018
    Done there and been that. A S&W Wheelgunner my whole life.

    The lessons I've learned may not apply to you as they represent decades of learning and refinement.

    Like has been mentioned, a J-frame is pretty tough to beat when it comes to carrying it around. If you're like most, this racket shakes out to about a 95 to 5 proposition. 95% carry time to 5% range time.

    Before anyone can get their foot wedged in the door with sage advice about shooting enough to become proficient with the weapon you carry? Yeah right.

    I carried a 337 for a while. At 11oz. It is the lightest 5 shot .38 available but it was torture to shoot.

    I've carried every flavor of K-frame stubbies too. They were ok, just ok and that includes the latest and greatest fanboy swooner, model 65 with the holy grail 3" pipe. Sorry but just ok.

    The reason is that the grip on the K-frame requires at least a Tyler grip adapter under the factory Magna panels if you hope to control the sharp recoil of a SD .357. Then ya got problems with cracked forcing cones and flame cutting on the top straps on K-frames. My personal opinion, is that .357 belongs in at least an L-frame.

    My best carry .357 is a model 686-5 +.
    It is equipped with a 2.5" barrel, Bimini clip grip in ivory with a plastic BT grip adapter, also in ivory.

    I carry this strong side, Mexican carry at 3:30. Nothing beats 7 rounds of .357 in a nice beefy L - frame stub nose
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  16. Old Sea Dragon

    Old Sea Dragon Well-Known Member

    Feb 10, 2018
    I currently have been carrying a SP101 my family gifted me for my last birthday. It has a 3" barrel as I was interested in trying this out. It does seem that the extra 1/2 inch makes the gun less comfortable to carry inside waistband at 11 o clock ( I'm a lefty) so I need to invest in a OWB holster. As a lefty I find that the push style latches of the Rugers are easier to manipulate but it is way less polished than my 66. I immediately replaced my 66's wood grips and with Pachmahr Compac grips and they are fine for magnums, comfortable even. That said I shoot them sparingly and only carry them in bear country, otherwise it is plus P 38's. A friend bought one of those ultra light Smith .357's and asked me for a few magnums to try. He only shot 2, and returned the rest to me. The next time he qualified with it I took the opportunity to run 5 rounds through it. What a beast! No thanks. Mike Venturino described them as "the .357 that never should have been" and I understand, as I have no interest in any Airweight, in any caliber. I just like to be able to enjoy shooting whatever I carry. 38 hollow points are enough for human threats.
  17. Tactical Rico

    Tactical Rico Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2016
    IMHO.........Look for a Model 13, 3" round butt. Conceals well, shoots swell..................even with .357's

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    This one is a little beat up cause I use it..............
    If you really like stainless go with the 65....also in 3" round butt.

  18. 41 Charlie

    41 Charlie Get off my lawn...

    Feb 4, 2014
    I’d pass on the M60, as I’m just not a J frame guy. They are too small and not pleasant to shoot. If you don’t enjoy shooting it, more than likely you won’t practice with it. I’ve always preferred a S&W K frame. The following K frames are #1 a M66 (2.5” barrel), #2 M13 (3” barrel), and #3 is a M19 (2.5” barrel). These are the goldielocks of S&W revolvers. Not too big, not too heavy, absorb recoil, and very pleasant too shoot. Stick with a K frame, JMO.

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  19. gps man

    gps man Well-Known Member

    Nov 7, 2015
    Well thought out response that I mostly agree with.

    Love my 2.5” 686+
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