Night sights are useless - change my mind

Discussion in 'Gear Talk' started by Yellowsupersport, Dec 29, 2018.

  1. Yellowsupersport

    Yellowsupersport Well-Known Member

    Sep 1, 2015
    I’ve noticed that many handguns are now sold with night sights as an “upgrade” option, however in my opinion, night sights are fundamentally useless.

    The reason for my thinking is that glow-in-the-dark tritium vials are great at showing where the sights are, and that’s about it. If it’s too dark for me to see my front sight literally an arms length from my face, then it’s too dark to see a target. And if my target is illuminated, then my front sight is a clear black silhouette.

    Change my mind.


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  2. Wheels No More

    Wheels No More Long gone

    May 12, 2015
    I can't really change your mind as I prefer gold bead front.
    So no dog in this fight.
     
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  3. mikegalway

    mikegalway CEO of DILLIGAF industries Supporting Addict

    Feb 23, 2014
    Preaching to the choir .
     
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  4. Dave Jessee

    Dave Jessee Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

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    Dec 31, 2014
    I can't argue with you about that.
     
  5. Ingramite

    Ingramite On The Lost Highway

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    Sep 16, 2018
    Just don't try to talk me out of wearing orange fingernail polish.
     
  6. fieldgrade

    fieldgrade resident crank

    Mar 13, 2017
    That's a Hackathorn class in my avatar. I took the pic, and Ken and LAV were just off camera. We had a low light segment that night. One of the lessons was to shine our handheld on a silhouette at 7 yards, turn off the light, and make head shots at 7 yards in all but total darkness. I made 10 out 10 head shots, no night sights. Who knew I could do that? I didn't.

    My take away from that, and other lessons.
    Carry a gun you are very familiar with. You know where it points even when you can't see where it points.

    If I need night sights to see the sights, I probably can't see the target well enough to identify the target.
     
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  7. LPRoad

    LPRoad Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 16, 2015
    Sounds like your mind is made up. I've shot plenty of courses at night with a flashlight in my off hand. Night sights help. You don't like them, no hard feelings.
     
  8. fieldgrade

    fieldgrade resident crank

    Mar 13, 2017
    I've shot three night matches with a handheld. I can only see the shadow of the sights against the illuminated target.
     
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  9. LPRoad

    LPRoad Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 16, 2015
    Like I said, you don't like night sights, that's fine and dandy.
     
  10. fieldgrade

    fieldgrade resident crank

    Mar 13, 2017
    Didn't say I didn't like them, just said I couldn't see them in a night match.
     
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  11. LPRoad

    LPRoad Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 16, 2015
    That's a valid experience, and I have no dog in the hunt. I like them. Worked for years without them, got them when we transitioned to HK USP45s and I felt like they helped. I agree that a good light is more important than what kind of sights you have :)
     
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  12. fieldgrade

    fieldgrade resident crank

    Mar 13, 2017
    Learning how to shoot with a handheld was a steep learning curve for me!
     
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  13. LPRoad

    LPRoad Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 16, 2015
    Haha, yeah, I prefer a weapon mounted light, but they frown on folks pointing their weapon light at a driver and saying "license, registration, and proof of insurance please" :D
     
  14. 1911fanatic

    1911fanatic Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2011
    Uh, I don’t have an opinion. I have 2 guns with and and a couple without. I guess if they help me find the gun from a dead sleep, then they help. But it isn’t a deal breaker if a gun I’m interested in doesn’t have them. So, I guess, I’m not going to change any bodies mind. But mine is open to common sense arguments.


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  15. LPRoad

    LPRoad Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Mar 16, 2015
     
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  16. fieldgrade

    fieldgrade resident crank

    Mar 13, 2017
    And that first muzzle flash can change things a lot if you plan follow up shots. We ran a bunch of differrent defense ammo in the dark to see which had the best and worst muzzle flash. I had never paid a lot of attention to that before.
     
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  17. BennyAdeline

    BennyAdeline Official Hi-Point Brand Representative

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    Nov 26, 2018
    Just eat lots of carrots. Problem solved
     
  18. Jim PHL

    Jim PHL Well-Known Member

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    Jan 26, 2013
    Chocolate and vanilla.
     
  19. GIJoke

    GIJoke A meat popsicle I am

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    Aug 28, 2018
  20. Integrity Arms

    Integrity Arms 1911 Pistol Smith

    Mar 20, 2017
    Agree 110% only good of night sights is on a bed stand gun.. Then it should be truglos, meprolight or something with some actual glow to them.. Trijicons are about the most expensive night sights and the most useless and hardest to see. While True glows are made the best imo, at least you can see them.
     

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