Old Star 9mm

Discussion in '1911 Photo Gallery' started by GrandpoppyJack, Mar 24, 2019.

  1. GrandpoppyJack

    GrandpoppyJack Member

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    Jul 16, 2018
    This pistol belonged to a friend of mine. He got it from his Father. When my friend developed lung cancer he sold it to me to help pay medical expenses and honestly to get it out of his house. I probably paid too much for it, but it wasn’t about the cost, rather helping a good friend in a time of need.

    It’s a cherished possession and I’m thinking about having it restored. Can anyone tell me anything about it?
     

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  2. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Consider my signature line before replying . . . .

    Dec 4, 2014
    Have you shot it yet?

    I am assuming no at this point. Be very careful before you do.

    I will need to do some research tomorrow on this one, but that "9mm" marking on the slide just may mean 9mm Largo (9x23) and NOT 9mm Luger (9x19).

    That gun looks like it might be from the 1930's to 1950's. The frame almost looks like it might be a Spanish Llama frame under a Star slide. All the markings on the slide are consistent with my Llama's.

    Must do my research.

    Z
     
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  3. GrandpoppyJack

    GrandpoppyJack Member

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    Jul 16, 2018
    Thanks ZoidMeister. Anything you can tell me will be greatly appreciated.

    I have not shot it yet. No idea the last time it was fired.
     
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  4. DWdude

    DWdude Well-Known Member

    Jan 31, 2019
    Yep I have one and its the 9x23 largo marked on hood. Regular 9x19 will chamber but is highly not recommended to shoot. Thumb safety doesn't work so it just sits. Does have the German stamp on it tho so it does have some history.
     
  5. mikegalway

    mikegalway CEO of DILLIGAF industries Supporting Addict

    Feb 23, 2014
    I'd have a smith look it over , verify caliber . These are not expensive guns . Think about that before restoring . Nothing wrong with the patina on the old pistola . If it's a 9mm luger it'll be good cheap fun .
     
  6. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Consider my signature line before replying . . . .

    Dec 4, 2014
    Here are a few photos of my Llama Model V. Your Star looks like it might have the same date code as this Llama, which was made during WWII in 1944.

    Both guns have pinned / pivoting triggers.

    Llama Model V - 001.JPG


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    Llama Model V - 005.JPG


    Z
     
  7. DWdude

    DWdude Well-Known Member

    Jan 31, 2019
    ZoidMeister does yours have a mark on the opposite side of the thumb safety near the safety pin?
     
  8. mikegalway

    mikegalway CEO of DILLIGAF industries Supporting Addict

    Feb 23, 2014
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  9. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Consider my signature line before replying . . . .

    Dec 4, 2014
    Not a Llama frame, but very similar.

    The magazine release is different an the trigger pivot point is in a different location.

    If it were a Llama, it would have a GC and serial number stamped on the right hand side. (Gabilondo y Cia. Elogibar). It does have the flaming bomb stamp that GC used on all the old Llama's, making me think it might have come from the same factory. If so, the date stamp of 1944 should be accurate.


    Llama Model V - 010.JPG

    Llama Model V - 011.JPG

    Sorry about how dark these photos are. I will try to lighten them up in the morning.

    Z
     
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  10. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Consider my signature line before replying . . . .

    Dec 4, 2014

    BTW, with regard to the "restoration".

    It's already perfect the way it is. Cleaning with a little Hoppes #9, a bit of oil, is all it needs. Might evaluate all the springs for replacement.

    Take a picture of the top of the magazine (removed from the gun, no ammo) and post it up. That MAY help determine which "9mm" caliber it is.

    Z
     
  11. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Consider my signature line before replying . . . .

    Dec 4, 2014
    Not that one, but I have a few of these. I will have to check them all. Don't remember.

    What kind of mark am i looking for?

    Z
     
  12. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Consider my signature line before replying . . . .

    Dec 4, 2014
  13. DWdude

    DWdude Well-Known Member

    Jan 31, 2019
    German proof mark. I will take a pic tomorrow
     
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  14. x95mk220

    x95mk220 #1. I am powerless against a well built 1911.

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    Jun 17, 2018
    That is a beaut for sure, imagine she’ll be around another century or 2!


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  15. DWdude

    DWdude Well-Known Member

    Jan 31, 2019
    20190325_123604.jpg 20190325_123655.jpg 20190325_123526.jpg 20190325_123535.jpg 20190325_123553.jpg Put in a few pics of the Star. The mark is on the beavertail ejection port side.
     
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  16. GrandpoppyJack

    GrandpoppyJack Member

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    Jul 16, 2018
    Poc
     
  17. GrandpoppyJack

    GrandpoppyJack Member

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    Jul 16, 2018
    Here are some pics of the mag
     

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