My practice load is Wilson combat accuracy load. 200 gr lswc 4.8 gr of bullseye .469 by 1.25. Shoots poa of 230gr hardball. I imch lower that my carry ammo. Speer 230 hp.
I agree, I thought there would have been a mountain of paperwork, but was surprised at how little is needed.I looked at making a line of ammunition as well, and long before finding this thread. I was shocked at finding it relatively easy to get up and started with the paperwork and how little paperwork was needed to start. My dream to create training rounds that would punch through paper but be minimal in penetration died. A little fortitude would have yielded great results in these last two years.
I am aiming to make the first ammo line as consistent as possible. I look at ammo the same way I load my rifle rounds, why would I chase sub moa from my rifle and accept 10 MOA ammo for my handgun? Considering I carry a handgun on me, not a rifle anymore.I think 124gr for 9mm is what my preference. For police dept training, I try to get those for range work. In the heat of the moment the difference between a 124gr and a 147gr will me minimal at CQB distance and I don't have to worry about the Officer experiencing a real world noticeable difference. Economics say make the 115gr and sell the crap out of it to folks so they can get some bang bang time. Standards on it should just follow SAMMI specs. You could do a separate station manned by more anal folks to make special batches that adhere more toward those that want and need consistency for more accuracy. I think that that would not be but a minute selection of folks since those shooting that way already load their own. I can see it would be a nicity for those like me who are getting into more accuracy in rifle shooting and need something that will get us good skill development for range time until we too evolve our needs into reloading. Development wise, you can go down the rabbit hole I was headed for in making bullets. I was looking for a lead replacement and was looking at a porcelain mixture encased by a inverse puncture shell that would start folding inward and cause hydrostatic shock to the solid powdered internal mix to cause it to turn back into powder. It was going to be an interesting experiment. Good luck, Pricing the presses that did large batch work were not too outlandish either. I imagine they could be leased that way you could upgrade and get free maintenance.
Just curious as the general opinions here do not match mine. Why ask preferences for 9mm on a predominantly 45acp group. Hoping not to offend anyone but I use more 9mm than any other caliber. 115gr has the most force and that's what I practice with.
You mean it what was formerly a 45 ACP dominated group. Just look at the NEW firearms people are buying. 9mm is heavily trumping 45 ACP. This is being further exacerbated by the difficulty in finding factory 45 ACP ammunition, to buy. What is available is heavily favored toward the 9mm. I have even seen more 40 S&W for sale than 45 ACP. I am not counting Gunbroker.Just curious as the general opinions here do not match mine. Why ask preferences for 9mm on a predominantly 45acp group. Hoping not to offend anyone but I use more 9mm than any other caliber. 115gr has the most force and that's what I practice with.
To be honest I think this plan would be a mistake.Once I get the first 9mm line up and running, and before I get the 45 acp. I will develop a JHP load. It will take time, there will be a lot of testing I want to do before I put that out into the market. Lots of gel tests to select the right bullet, accuracy, reliability, barrier testing. If people were to carry it, I want to ensure it will do the job 100% of the time. That will include to have a sealant on around primer and the bullet.
I am looking forward to get to that point!
Major misreading of the market?To be honest I think this plan would be a mistake.
1. There is HUGE demand out there for affordable, target .45 ACP ammo.
2. With a JHP you are trying to go head to head with the best in the business who have expended huge resources to develop JHP rounds that have captured significant market share and name brand recognition.
Why should somebody buy your rounds when they could just buy HST or Gold Dots instead? For rounds you have to trust with your life, brand reputation (which you have zero) is hugely important.
I’m sorry but this is a major misreading of the market.
Cheap, reliable target ammo is where your opportunity lies. Making a JHP is a decision that seems like you want this to be a hobby rather than a business.
But it’s your call to make. I’ll be happy to buy your 9mm.. and especially your .45 ACP when it’s eventually available.
I don’t have any interest in buying JHP ammo from an unknown brand with a statistically insignificant fraction of the testing resources of the major brands. Sorry.
sighMajor misreading of the market?
9mm and 223/5.56 are the most in demand ammo. 45acp can be found far easier than 9mm.
As far as in competition with other companies? Normal supplies won't return to normal at least until the 3rd or 4th quarter of the year. Everyone is producing to capacity and it isn't enough given all the gun sales over the past 6 months.
The OP has his ideas in tune with the market.