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Discussion in 'Rifles & Shotguns' started by Levi Streiter, Aug 5, 2020.
Is she new to guns?
LWRC SMG 45 ACP is my vote. If she doesn't like it you have thousands of guaranteed buyers, myself included. Easy to handle, good suppressor capabilities, mag capacity, etc.
I like it, I just need to stop being like this.
Really depends on her experience level and what she wants to shoot and is comfortable with. I highly encourage you to get her some training with a female trainer, whatever she decides on. I totally understand why you would want a can on a PDW, I also think that for someone new to shooting the added length isn't necessarily a good thing when you're trying to maneuver in tight spaces. Depending on your homes layout, this may or may not be a consideration. Myself included, I think that we can put too much onus onto the idea that a pistol is only to fight your way to a long gun. That is much less true if you aren't proficient with said long gun in tight spaces. As I believe @Uncle Bob recently stated in the dumb thread about training troops with handguns, it is harder for a "bad guy" to fight a novice with a handgun, in confined spaces, than a long gun. The opposite being true when the "good guy" behind the trigger is experienced.
Whatever she decides on, we want pics.
Don't change a bit.
Edit to add: my mind went there too, you're just faster on the draw.
Call me confused, but you said she complained about the length of your silent professional, and your solution is to choose something an inch shorter and a tad lighter, and then adding a suppressor to it because otherwise it will be to loud.
My rule of thumb for a home defense weapon. I want it to punch holes in the threat, ideally several, quickly and with manageable follow up shots. I want it to be an effective manstopper.
If I am ever in a situation where I am on the verge of pulling the trigger to protect my loved ones or myself, the last thing I am going to worry about is how much noise it makes. I don't care if it wakes the whole damned state. There are enough genuine concerns in picking a home defense weapon without worrying about something that has nothing to do with stopping power and ease of use.
If something goes bump in the night, my hand is going straight to the 1911 on the nightstand. If I feel the threat is not immediate(I have more time to respond), then I will grab my Mossberg from the closet, and tuck that 1911 into my waistband.
There are literally dozens of options for personal defense that are superior to a suppressed AR platform. That is not to say the AR does not have it's place, but it would not be the first, or even the second thing I reached for in a typical home invasion scenario.
You know, you might want to take her to a range where you can rent weapons to try. Frankly I'd suggest a pistol especially if it's for inside. Tactically they're easier to maneuver with and if she finds a pistol she likes, she'll be more enthusiastic about it. Besides, carbines punch walls... easier than a lot of pistol calibers.
We built a fun house and tested a lot of penetration on CA spec house buildings which is far tougher than most of the country.
Then there was Mike Horne indoor challenges with wheelguns and wax bullets. This was done to study tactics for indoors. Heavy pucker factor when you first started, especially if they booby trapped things! Learned to love them and some ended up at Gunsite
That is excellent advice and I plan on doing that. The ranges here have had a big problem getting ammo though, so many of their firearms were not usable.
Do it as you can, give her time. You'll find women are excellent shooters once they get interested. They focus better!
Time for the sweat lodge Buddy ?
I have looked at that a lot... Garand Thumb just gave it a very poor review as far as reliability goes. B&T also makes a nice 45 smg
A 9mm PCC is what I would suggest. You could lessen the cost by providing quality electronic ear protection vs a suppressor. Place close to the weapon, enhanced listening while protecting hearing when shooting.
Get her a pistol caliber carbine instead. CX4 Storm would be an ideal choice.
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if she is new to guns, you may consider something like this. I'm setting up one now for me and my son as a trainer/ fun gun/ silenced backpack gun. Its a kel tec cp33....runs 33 round 22lr mags and is extremely reliable. Let me know if you are interested in this and I can provide specifics on rhe set up.
I may get that in addition as a training gun- I also saw that POF just released a nice .22 pistol.
Sure that the V Seven is a nice gun, but other than the quite nice trigger, I don't see much to really justify that price-
Ultra-light mag catch/release diamond button
Ultra-light AR-15 takedown/pivot pins--Grade 5 Titanium trigger/hammer pins .155 Geissele
etc- I get that it's "light", but still it's a very basic, sightless, braceless pistol....and sometimes a bit of weight is good.
This was mine ,(recently sold), a favorite of my 12 year old daughter.
even straight blowback, very easy to shoot, never a hiccup, very quiet suppressed with regular 9mm and silly quiet with subsonics. About $800 all in.
But either way- as others have said, don't assume what will be good for your wife....
I wish @Joni Lynn would chime in, we're still a bunch of guys talking about guns we think a woman would be keen on. One aspect of the nature of these queries is it has struck me that the inquisitor is really looking for validation to buy a gun he wants that he thinks who also be suitable for his meaningful other. I may be, and probably am quite off base here, and mean no offense, but shouldn't there be more direct dialogue and input from the potential user?
We all know that new shooters succeed with simple and safe platforms.
disclaimer: I am in day three of an industrial strength course of medicine and I recognize I should keep my small mind and big mouth shut, but I still think the question should be directed at the person who is going to use the gun.